Thanks Tom, I agree. I pattern and assure every year my lethal shot limits. I do enjoy the hunt and get them in close. I've got one less place to go hunt this year and have to be on another property with big open meadows and fields a lot now. I've let a lot go out there at the 40-50 yard range and can heartily say that when they come running from 1000 yards right into my lap it is a beautiful day. When they stop out there , though, the extra ten-20 yards reach would be OK with me.