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Started by BottomLand54, March 07, 2018, 10:13:41 PM
Quote from: Spurs on March 11, 2018, 06:46:13 PMQuote from: owlhoot on March 11, 2018, 06:16:02 PMQuote from: CrustyRusty on March 11, 2018, 04:41:25 PMOverkill to me is knowing the maximum range of my gun and making sure my shots are under those limits. We all like to bring out the best we can afford, but being a responsible and ethical hunter is what "overkill" is there for...the potential for abuse is obvious with this trend. Quote from: Spurs on March 11, 2018, 03:41:51 PMOne thing that many people seem to put into these arguments is "does it kill them any deader?". This question seems kinda condescending. I, for one, decide to go to the field with the best that I can afford in my gun. For some, that is Winchester #5 lead, for others it is an SP-10 with 3.5" of tss. This whole argument of "overkill" seems pretty ridiculous. I will take every precaution necessary to ensure I dang near rip ones head off, but unfortunately, we all mess up from time to time. That is what the "overkill" is there for.Potential for abuse equals taking a shot at the range your load is barely capable of,don't care what it is.Why would you only use a load which barely could get the job done at 40 yards away and then shoot to that distance .He stated "under those limits". Which is another way of doing it.I see both sides of these arguments, but I want to make sure I have exess power beyond 40 yards in case I cripple a bird. Several years ago when Hevi-13 #7 first came out, I crippled a bird at 30 yards when I dropped slightly while I was pulling the trigger. Then I rushed another two shots. I took a split second and drew a hard bead, killing him at somewhere between 50-60 yards. I am in no way boasting here...I literally wish I didn't have a story like this...It took all the joy out of what could have been a great turkey hunt.This is why I shoot with capabilities beyond my personal 40 yard max. It is the responsibility of all hunters to know their capability and act accordingly. But having a gun capable of killing a bird beyond that does not necesserily mean it is being utilized as such...this is a common error that many assume to be true. I would be willing to bet the vast majority of all turkey hunters strive to harvest their bird within 40 yards.
Quote from: owlhoot on March 11, 2018, 06:16:02 PMQuote from: CrustyRusty on March 11, 2018, 04:41:25 PMOverkill to me is knowing the maximum range of my gun and making sure my shots are under those limits. We all like to bring out the best we can afford, but being a responsible and ethical hunter is what "overkill" is there for...the potential for abuse is obvious with this trend. Quote from: Spurs on March 11, 2018, 03:41:51 PMOne thing that many people seem to put into these arguments is "does it kill them any deader?". This question seems kinda condescending. I, for one, decide to go to the field with the best that I can afford in my gun. For some, that is Winchester #5 lead, for others it is an SP-10 with 3.5" of tss. This whole argument of "overkill" seems pretty ridiculous. I will take every precaution necessary to ensure I dang near rip ones head off, but unfortunately, we all mess up from time to time. That is what the "overkill" is there for.Potential for abuse equals taking a shot at the range your load is barely capable of,don't care what it is.Why would you only use a load which barely could get the job done at 40 yards away and then shoot to that distance .
Quote from: CrustyRusty on March 11, 2018, 04:41:25 PMOverkill to me is knowing the maximum range of my gun and making sure my shots are under those limits. We all like to bring out the best we can afford, but being a responsible and ethical hunter is what "overkill" is there for...the potential for abuse is obvious with this trend. Quote from: Spurs on March 11, 2018, 03:41:51 PMOne thing that many people seem to put into these arguments is "does it kill them any deader?". This question seems kinda condescending. I, for one, decide to go to the field with the best that I can afford in my gun. For some, that is Winchester #5 lead, for others it is an SP-10 with 3.5" of tss. This whole argument of "overkill" seems pretty ridiculous. I will take every precaution necessary to ensure I dang near rip ones head off, but unfortunately, we all mess up from time to time. That is what the "overkill" is there for.Potential for abuse equals taking a shot at the range your load is barely capable of,don't care what it is.
Quote from: Spurs on March 11, 2018, 03:41:51 PMOne thing that many people seem to put into these arguments is "does it kill them any deader?". This question seems kinda condescending. I, for one, decide to go to the field with the best that I can afford in my gun. For some, that is Winchester #5 lead, for others it is an SP-10 with 3.5" of tss. This whole argument of "overkill" seems pretty ridiculous. I will take every precaution necessary to ensure I dang near rip ones head off, but unfortunately, we all mess up from time to time. That is what the "overkill" is there for.
Quote from: BottomLand54 on March 12, 2018, 08:30:28 AMI'm on the list to get the new benelli SDE 1 It's coming out next year benelli super distance eagle 10 gauge Shoots the new shells hornady and ficocchi are designing 10 guage 4 inch shells and will hold 4 of them.Msrp starts at 2799.99Ammo may be hard to come by at first but can't wait until apex makes a 4" 3oz load of number 10's I defiantly should have a gun that will have some overkill at 40 yards.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: Happy on March 12, 2018, 09:12:58 AMQuote from: BottomLand54 on March 12, 2018, 08:30:28 AMI'm on the list to get the new benelli SDE 1 It's coming out next year benelli super distance eagle 10 gauge Shoots the new shells hornady and ficocchi are designing 10 guage 4 inch shells and will hold 4 of them.Msrp starts at 2799.99Ammo may be hard to come by at first but can't wait until apex makes a 4" 3oz load of number 10's I defiantly should have a gun that will have some overkill at 40 yards.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkPlease videotape when you touch one of those bad boys off.
Quote from: Ol timer on March 12, 2018, 08:13:15 AMI for one will not sweet over the new 20 ga. TSS craze I have 2 - 20 ga guns and will be sticking with my 12ga. It's killed over 50 birds with #5 shot at various yards, This is another marketing sales plan so you go buy a new gun then spend $40 a box for 5 shells, does crossbows come to mind here. Shoot them 12 ga. Guns and just go have fun hunting.
Quote from: zelmo1 on March 12, 2018, 09:41:01 AMWhat is your Max ethical kill distance Spitten and Drummin?
