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Is the 3" 20 ga round obsolete for turkey hunting?

Started by Fast Freddy, February 22, 2018, 11:04:19 AM

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Fast Freddy

With some of the 2 3/4 loads being developed now, there looks to be no need in 3" shell anymore.

worth612000

#1
 Maybe 2 3/4 will be obsolete one day. They can always make a 3" load reduced recoil. To many buys the 3"

turkeyinstrut

I shoot a 2 3/4". 1 5/8 oz. of 9.5 load in my 20 ga. at 1260 FPS, absolutely no need in me shooting a 3" shell.

Fast Freddy

Quote from: turkeyinstrut on February 22, 2018, 01:31:41 PM
I shoot a 2 3/4". 1 5/8 oz. of 9.5 load in my 20 ga. at 1260 FPS, absolutely no need in me shooting a 3" shell.

Exactly, saw a 1 5/8 posted last weekend on FB, that was 1285 fps.

MK M GOBL

#4
Can't see that it would be going away... Some will always want the 3" load.

MK M GOBL

BrowningGuy88

I don't think it will ever be obsolete.

I for one like options. I like being able to shoot my 2.75" rolled hand loads or if I run out, grabbing a box of Winchester 5's and go hunting.

Same thing goes for 12 gauge. Prefer the option of all 3 lengths.

surehuntsalot

it's not the harvest,it's the chase

Fast Freddy

Not saying obsolete as in they won't make 3" guns anymore, just saying that it doesn't make sense to shoot 3" loads when we are pushing the envelope attaining near 1300 fps with fairly heavy payloads, and well within safe pressures.

Fullfan

Quote from: turkeyinstrut on February 22, 2018, 01:31:41 PM
I shoot a 2 3/4". 1 5/8 oz. of 9.5 load in my 20 ga. at 1260 FPS, absolutely no need in me shooting a 3" shell.

I just shot the same load, and I'm very impressed....
Don't gobble at me...

Spurs Up

Quote from: Fast Freddy on February 22, 2018, 04:35:35 PM
Not saying obsolete as in they won't make 3" guns anymore, just saying that it doesn't make sense to shoot 3" loads when we are pushing the envelope attaining near 1300 fps with fairly heavy payloads, and well within safe pressures.

???  Not sure I understand. Everything else being equal, the shorter shell will have higher pressure than the longer one.

Fast Freddy

#10
Quote from: Spurs Up on February 22, 2018, 08:07:37 PM
Quote from: Fast Freddy on February 22, 2018, 04:35:35 PM
Not saying obsolete as in they won't make 3" guns anymore, just saying that it doesn't make sense to shoot 3" loads when we are pushing the envelope attaining near 1300 fps with fairly heavy payloads, and well within safe pressures.

  Not sure I understand. Everything else being equal, the shorter shell will have higher pressure than the longer one.

I'm not talking equal. I'm talking about 2 3/4" shells that will run in any 20 ga made, and preform deep into 3" Load territory. All within pressures that would allow you to shoot it in your granddaddy's 100 yr old 2 3/4" only gun. A 3" round won't do that.

Greg Massey

I have a couple of boxes of 20 gauge , 2 1/2 inch....shells

Fullfan

The 2 3/4  1 5/8 oz load of TSS 9 shoots just as well at the 3" with the same load. Just now I do not have to trim the hulls.
Don't gobble at me...

Fast Freddy

Quote from: Fullfan on February 23, 2018, 09:21:00 AM
The 2 3/4  1 5/8 oz load of TSS 9 shoots just as well at the 3" with the same load. Just now I do not have to trim the hulls.

I wouldn't think that you would have to trim a 2 3/4" hull.

SteelerFan

New 2 3/4 loads are decreasing the necessity of a 3" payload. Same can be said about the relationship of all other gun / ammo combos.

10 ga vs. 12 ga 3.5
12 ga. 3.5 vs. 12 ga. 3
12 ga. 3 vs. 12 ga. 2.75
12 ga. ? vs. 20 ga. 3
etc, etc