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Quote from: Bill Cooksey on April 19, 2016, 10:00:46 AMIt's pretty cool to look at the thought put into all the tricked out vests. Having worked on product designs for waterfowl gear for years, I realize the time and effort required. That said, every vest I see today has way more tthan I want. Obviously I'm in the minority, but I want a strap vest with two outside and two inside zippered pockets, a game pouch on back big enough for a water bottle and foam decoy, and NO Seat. I take the seat off as soon as I get a vest. Such a vest wouldn't sell very well, and that's why the sample I wear now was never produced. Also, I suggest folks remove the vest from their shoulders when they sit down. Amazing how much better you can move.
Quote from: asanti on April 19, 2016, 12:30:41 PMQuote from: Bill Cooksey on April 19, 2016, 10:00:46 AMIt's pretty cool to look at the thought put into all the tricked out vests. Having worked on product designs for waterfowl gear for years, I realize the time and effort required. That said, every vest I see today has way more tthan I want. Obviously I'm in the minority, but I want a strap vest with two outside and two inside zippered pockets, a game pouch on back big enough for a water bottle and foam decoy, and NO Seat. I take the seat off as soon as I get a vest. Such a vest wouldn't sell very well, and that's why the sample I wear now was never produced. Also, I suggest folks remove the vest from their shoulders when they sit down. Amazing how much better you can move. I definitely like the like weight set up but folllowing a double knee surgery I spend most of my time sitting and setting up now than running and gunning. I am thinkning in my custom vest that i will make my seat be detachable by buckle straps so that if i choose to run and gun it will be that much lighter. I couldn't agree more on the pockets. All i take is a box call a slate call, gloves and facemask, and my owl hoot. This is definitely gonna be an offseason project.
Quote from: M Sharpe on April 19, 2016, 12:32:04 PMQuote from: Bill Cooksey on April 19, 2016, 10:00:46 AMThat sounds pretty much like my "old" bucklick creek vest...without the seat.
Quote from: Bill Cooksey on April 19, 2016, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: M Sharpe on April 19, 2016, 12:32:04 PMQuote from: Bill Cooksey on April 19, 2016, 10:00:46 AMIt's pretty cool to look at the thought put into all the tricked out vests. Having worked on product designs for waterfowl gear for years, I realize the time and effort required. That said, every vest I see today has way more tthan I want. Obviously I'm in the minority, but I want a strap vest with two outside and two inside zippered pockets, a game pouch on back big enough for a water bottle and foam decoy, and NO Seat. I take the seat off as soon as I get a vest. Such a vest wouldn't sell very well, and that's why the sample I wear now was never produced. Also, I suggest folks remove the vest from their shoulders when they sit down. Amazing how much better you can move. That sounds pretty much like my "old" bucklick creek vest...without the seat.
Quote from: asanti on April 19, 2016, 01:39:25 PMQuote from: M Sharpe on April 19, 2016, 12:32:04 PMQuote from: Bill Cooksey on April 19, 2016, 10:00:46 AMIt's pretty cool to look at the thought put into all the tricked out vests. Having worked on product designs for waterfowl gear for years, I realize the time and effort required. That said, every vest I see today has way more tthan I want. Obviously I'm in the minority, but I want a strap vest with two outside and two inside zippered pockets, a game pouch on back big enough for a water bottle and foam decoy, and NO Seat. I take the seat off as soon as I get a vest. Such a vest wouldn't sell very well, and that's why the sample I wear now was never produced. Also, I suggest folks remove the vest from their shoulders when they sit down. Amazing how much better you can move. That sounds pretty much like my "old" bucklick creek vest...without the seat.I have a bucklick that I really like but it is heavy and falling apart. I plan on purchasing a seat like that and customizign the rest. I found one online that only weighs 1.7lbs for the seat so weight should be a lot less.
Quote from: Marc on April 19, 2016, 12:27:07 PMQuote from: nitro on April 19, 2016, 07:50:34 AMIMHO, Ol Tom designs are great.. The actual products are cheaply made and they just don't hold up well. Crappy materials and quality.I was actually all set to purchase an Ol' Tom vest (cannot remember the model) this year... I put it on, walked around, and the magnetic seat kept coming off (just walking in the store). I need a small vest, and looking at the game bag, I realized it could not fit a turkey inside it very easily... Or, I could fit one in, but it would be very uncomfortable to transport a bird this way... The pockets were well-organized, and the fit was good. The material was thinner cotton material, and although very light weight (and cool) I have to wonder how it would have held up? Quote from: Bill Cooksey on April 19, 2016, 10:00:46 AMIt's pretty cool to look at the thought put into all the tricked out vests. Having worked on product designs for waterfowl gear for years, I realize the time and effort required. That said, every vest I see today has way more tthan I want. Obviously I'm in the minority, but I want a strap vest with two outside and two inside zippered pockets, a game pouch on back big enough for a water bottle and foam decoy, and NO Seat. I take the seat off as soon as I get a vest. Such a vest wouldn't sell very well, and that's why the sample I wear now was never produced. Also, I suggest folks remove the vest from their shoulders when they sit down. Amazing how much better you can move. I am not a fan of the seats either. I generally remove mine after my initial set-up. But, I am hunting knee to waste-high grass this year that is soaking wet. Nice to have a dry seat to sit on until the condensation dries up... If I am running and gunning I leave the seat off.Although there are plenty of pockets for my calls in the Tat'r-2, I still wear a diaphragm lanyard around my neck and a box-call holster, and a holster for my GPS... If I want to gain that last 100-200 yards on a bird, I remove the vest... I also mark a way-point on the GPS so I can find it if I get confused (which happens more frequently than I would care to admit). Sometimes that 100 yards ends up being a lot longer and off the beaten path...
Quote from: nitro on April 19, 2016, 07:50:34 AMIMHO, Ol Tom designs are great.. The actual products are cheaply made and they just don't hold up well. Crappy materials and quality.
Quote from: M Sharpe on April 19, 2016, 06:08:48 PMQuote from: asanti on April 19, 2016, 01:39:25 PMQuote from: M Sharpe on April 19, 2016, 12:32:04 PMQuote from: Bill Cooksey on April 19, 2016, 10:00:46 AMIt's pretty cool to look at the thought put into all the tricked out vests. Having worked on product designs for waterfowl gear for years, I realize the time and effort required. That said, every vest I see today has way more tthan I want. Obviously I'm in the minority, but I want a strap vest with two outside and two inside zippered pockets, a game pouch on back big enough for a water bottle and foam decoy, and NO Seat. I take the seat off as soon as I get a vest. Such a vest wouldn't sell very well, and that's why the sample I wear now was never produced. Also, I suggest folks remove the vest from their shoulders when they sit down. Amazing how much better you can move. That sounds pretty much like my "old" bucklick creek vest...without the seat.I have a bucklick that I really like but it is heavy and falling apart. I plan on purchasing a seat like that and customizign the rest. I found one online that only weighs 1.7lbs for the seat so weight should be a lot less.If you think that bucklick creek vest is heavy, wait till you do find one of those Dixon vest. That was the reason I didn't buy one when they came out.
Quote from: beakbuster10 on April 19, 2016, 08:25:35 PMQuote from: Marc on April 19, 2016, 12:27:07 PMQuote from: nitro on April 19, 2016, 07:50:34 AMOL tom must have run into some quality control issues because the I-beam I've had for four years as well as my hunting partner's are top notch. The magnets are so strong that I have to tug hard to get my cushion down. My other half purchased a tenZing vest (without the kickstands) for me a couple years ago. Love the vest for when it's colder out because it's heavier than the tom but the magnets absolutely suck (much like you described, and I can't stand having to clip and unclip the buckles that hold the seat on).I was thinking the same thing. My Ol Tom vest is great and the magnets are VERY strong. I think mine is 4 maybe 5 years old.
Quote from: Marc on April 19, 2016, 12:27:07 PMQuote from: nitro on April 19, 2016, 07:50:34 AMOL tom must have run into some quality control issues because the I-beam I've had for four years as well as my hunting partner's are top notch. The magnets are so strong that I have to tug hard to get my cushion down. My other half purchased a tenZing vest (without the kickstands) for me a couple years ago. Love the vest for when it's colder out because it's heavier than the tom but the magnets absolutely suck (much like you described, and I can't stand having to clip and unclip the buckles that hold the seat on).I was thinking the same thing. My Ol Tom vest is great and the magnets are VERY strong. I think mine is 4 maybe 5 years old.
Quote from: nitro on April 19, 2016, 07:50:34 AMOL tom must have run into some quality control issues because the I-beam I've had for four years as well as my hunting partner's are top notch. The magnets are so strong that I have to tug hard to get my cushion down. My other half purchased a tenZing vest (without the kickstands) for me a couple years ago. Love the vest for when it's colder out because it's heavier than the tom but the magnets absolutely suck (much like you described, and I can't stand having to clip and unclip the buckles that hold the seat on).