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Started by g8rvet, April 07, 2016, 09:33:30 PM
Quote from: g8rvet on April 07, 2016, 09:33:30 PMNephew has bird scouted on very public location - easy access, lots of folks know about the area. Has listened to him for 4 days prior to opener. On opening morning he parks where he wants to hunt. Gets there 4 hours before daylight. Has a couple of trucks come in, see his truck and turn around. One goes past (plenty of places to hunt beyond him). The place he is hunting is a U shaped turkey oak flat above a creek bottom. It is 600 yards wide and 300 yards deep at the deepest point. Just before gobble time he and friend get out of truck, waiting to see where he is roosted. It is about 35 minutes prior to daylight. Truck pulls in and sees him and backs up. He is listening to hear if the truck drives off, but the bird sounds off, so his attention is directed at the bird. The bird is on the end of the flat that he is parked next to. Roughly 250 yards from his truck. He heads in. He gets as close as he dares and sets up. Bird answers his call on the limb. Flies down to the flat. Gobbles. He gives a little light calling when he hears a hen, toward where the guy backed up to. The bird responds to that. They have a little call war, with nephew being a little soft and late guy being aggressive. Late guy has the bird coming and BOOM. Shoots the bird (or at least no more gobbles and no tracks leaving the flat). Not 150 yards from my nephew. Definitely close enough to hear each other's calling. The guy saw his truck and knew he was there. Nephew walks back to truck and down the road to have a discussion but the guy is gone. This is on 550,00 acre WMA in Florida. TONS of rooms to spread out. I know what I think, but curious to hear from others.
Quote from: sswv on April 08, 2016, 08:00:48 AMpublic land story...back when the 835 hit the scene a young friend of mine had to have one. he worked with it and picked his favorite ammo (which was slim back then). he practiced his calling and did his scouting. first week he's on public land set up on a bird on a wide ridge that runs off into a dirt road about 350-400 yards away. he has a bird doing everything a hunter could ask for. the bird is coming in hard and he is ready. the bird shows up to his left strutting. he has the gun ready but watches the show for just a bit. the birds get in the middle of the ridge right in front of my friend about 35-40yds away. he makes a quick alert call and the bird sticks his head straight up, BOOM, bird starts flopping at the exact same time my friend hears blood curling screams from the narrow end of the ridge in front of him. Yep, he shot another hunter that was trying to sneak up on the bird. guy is full of shot cussing and screaming but not dying. friend gets help as soon as possible. local DNR shows and now keep in mind the sneaky hunter admitted he never once made a call. I know the outcome but curious what the gang here thinks it should have been.
Quote from: hobbes on April 07, 2016, 09:55:24 PMLegal.....yes.Ethical.....no, provided the guy knew your nephew was set up on the bird. Some folks are just plain ignorant of ethics. Some folks are devious. Hopefully the ignorant ones learn and the devious ones find another hobby. (I could think of a few worse things that could happen to the devious ones)I've had it done to me at least a couple times. Both birds got away.
Quote from: Hooksfan on April 08, 2016, 10:46:41 AMIt was over 20 years ago in the Kisatchie National Forest, I had a guy showed up two mornings in a row just at gobbling time and come in on me and spooked turkeys off the roost as he would walk in. My father in law was a shade tree mechanic who always had a yard full of trucks and cars for sale. On the third morning, I spent some time having the wife ferry me back and forth and when the dude pulled up to come in on me, I am sure he was surprised to find my truck and three other vehicles there. He decided to go somewhere else. I killed the bird that morning.
Quote from: ruination on April 08, 2016, 11:16:47 AMReally depends on the other dudes intent. But really, hunting a bird right next to the road is not a good idea for exactly this reason. If the dude cut off the bird on the way to your nephew, that's unethical. 2 people calling to the same bird though happens all the time. At least there was the rest of the day and 500k acres to continue hunting.In Maryland goose season there are blinds pretty close together all over the place. People compete for the same birds all day long, I wouldn't call it unethical. I think if you remove all the things the other guy could not have known the situation is not so black and white.
Quote from: ilbucksndux on April 08, 2016, 11:28:29 AMQuote from: ruination on April 08, 2016, 11:16:47 AMReally depends on the other dudes intent. But really, hunting a bird right next to the road is not a good idea for exactly this reason. If the dude cut off the bird on the way to your nephew, that's unethical. 2 people calling to the same bird though happens all the time. At least there was the rest of the day and 500k acres to continue hunting.In Maryland goose season there are blinds pretty close together all over the place. People compete for the same birds all day long, I wouldn't call it unethical. I think if you remove all the things the other guy could not have known the situation is not so black and white.Really ? The guy KNEW they were there and parked close enough to sneak in on them. Goose hunting in a public waterfowl area is the same but different. If geese are just flying around they are free game,but when they start to work another blind/spread you shut up. Alteast you better if your hunting near me