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Quote from: Greybeard11 on July 02, 2015, 12:49:42 PMEven if you agree with this issue, it should concern you that the federal government is making these decisions for all of us without regard to state's, or individual rights to self government. There is no "we the people" in these decisions.
Quote from: Rick Howard on July 02, 2015, 03:03:16 PMFor arguments sake, Should our government force our religious beliefs on others? Please correct me if I am wrong, one core principle this country was founded on is freedom of religious oppression. For me to ask the US government to make my religion law would be Un-American to me.
Quote from: davisd9 on July 02, 2015, 03:12:56 PMQuote from: Rick Howard on July 02, 2015, 03:03:16 PMFor arguments sake, Should our government force our religious beliefs on others? Please correct me if I am wrong, one core principle this country was founded on is freedom of religious oppression. For me to ask the US government to make my religion law would be Un-American to me. The main argument on this vote is State's Rights and not religion, when it comes to how to constitution is read.The supreme courts job is to uphold the constitution and not make laws. Too bad we do not have more Justices like Justice Thomas who reads the constitution as it is written and does not try to make out that it secretly means this.
Quote from: Rick Howard on July 02, 2015, 04:13:46 PMI understand the purpose of all courts. I am well educated, a paralegal, and married to a lawyer (a female lol). I have yet to read the ruling but from what I have heard, the court did exactly what it was asked. It ruled on the constitutionality of state laws banning same sex marriage. Or was there more?But, my original question was whether I should be imposing my religion on others. I often read the basis of people convictions against same sex marriage is their religion. I do not believe that I, or anyone else, has the right to ask the US government to force my religious beliefs on anyone.I would rather people be free to do as they please, so long as it does not negatively impact others financially, physically, or way of life. The will of the majority should not infringe on the minority in these areas.
Quote from: davisd9 on July 02, 2015, 04:34:06 PMQuote from: Rick Howard on July 02, 2015, 04:13:46 PMI understand the purpose of all courts. I am well educated, a paralegal, and married to a lawyer (a female lol). I have yet to read the ruling but from what I have heard, the court did exactly what it was asked. It ruled on the constitutionality of state laws banning same sex marriage. Or was there more?But, my original question was whether I should be imposing my religion on others. I often read the basis of people convictions against same sex marriage is their religion. I do not believe that I, or anyone else, has the right to ask the US government to force my religious beliefs on anyone.I would rather people be free to do as they please, so long as it does not negatively impact others financially, physically, or way of life. The will of the majority should not infringe on the minority in these areas. So what is your stance on the bakers that refuse to do a homosexual cake because of their freedom of religion and were sued to the point the business is about to fold? Should the baker's have the right to deny service on their unalienable right of freedom of religion or should they have been punished for their beliefs?Sent from the Strut Zone
Quote from: stinkpickle on July 02, 2015, 04:59:30 PMQuote from: davisd9 on July 02, 2015, 04:34:06 PMQuote from: Rick Howard on July 02, 2015, 04:13:46 PMI understand the purpose of all courts. I am well educated, a paralegal, and married to a lawyer (a female lol). I have yet to read the ruling but from what I have heard, the court did exactly what it was asked. It ruled on the constitutionality of state laws banning same sex marriage. Or was there more?But, my original question was whether I should be imposing my religion on others. I often read the basis of people convictions against same sex marriage is their religion. I do not believe that I, or anyone else, has the right to ask the US government to force my religious beliefs on anyone.I would rather people be free to do as they please, so long as it does not negatively impact others financially, physically, or way of life. The will of the majority should not infringe on the minority in these areas. So what is your stance on the bakers that refuse to do a homosexual cake because of their freedom of religion and were sued to the point the business is about to fold? Should the baker's have the right to deny service on their unalienable right of freedom of religion or should they have been punished for their beliefs?Sent from the Strut ZoneIronically, that falls within the context of state anti-discrimination laws.
Quote from: davisd9 on July 02, 2015, 07:43:39 PMQuote from: stinkpickle on July 02, 2015, 04:59:30 PMQuote from: davisd9 on July 02, 2015, 04:34:06 PMQuote from: Rick Howard on July 02, 2015, 04:13:46 PMI understand the purpose of all courts. I am well educated, a paralegal, and married to a lawyer (a female lol). I have yet to read the ruling but from what I have heard, the court did exactly what it was asked. It ruled on the constitutionality of state laws banning same sex marriage. Or was there more?But, my original question was whether I should be imposing my religion on others. I often read the basis of people convictions against same sex marriage is their religion. I do not believe that I, or anyone else, has the right to ask the US government to force my religious beliefs on anyone.I would rather people be free to do as they please, so long as it does not negatively impact others financially, physically, or way of life. The will of the majority should not infringe on the minority in these areas. So what is your stance on the bakers that refuse to do a homosexual cake because of their freedom of religion and were sued to the point the business is about to fold? Should the baker's have the right to deny service on their unalienable right of freedom of religion or should they have been punished for their beliefs?Sent from the Strut ZoneIronically, that falls within the context of state anti-discrimination laws. So it falls down to, I can discriminate upon you but you cannot upon me because I am of a special group.Should be the same down the board.Sent from the Strut Zone
Quote from: stinkpickle on July 02, 2015, 07:47:09 PMQuote from: davisd9 on July 02, 2015, 07:43:39 PMQuote from: stinkpickle on July 02, 2015, 04:59:30 PMQuote from: davisd9 on July 02, 2015, 04:34:06 PMQuote from: Rick Howard on July 02, 2015, 04:13:46 PMI understand the purpose of all courts. I am well educated, a paralegal, and married to a lawyer (a female lol). I have yet to read the ruling but from what I have heard, the court did exactly what it was asked. It ruled on the constitutionality of state laws banning same sex marriage. Or was there more?But, my original question was whether I should be imposing my religion on others. I often read the basis of people convictions against same sex marriage is their religion. I do not believe that I, or anyone else, has the right to ask the US government to force my religious beliefs on anyone.I would rather people be free to do as they please, so long as it does not negatively impact others financially, physically, or way of life. The will of the majority should not infringe on the minority in these areas. So what is your stance on the bakers that refuse to do a homosexual cake because of their freedom of religion and were sued to the point the business is about to fold? Should the baker's have the right to deny service on their unalienable right of freedom of religion or should they have been punished for their beliefs?Sent from the Strut ZoneIronically, that falls within the context of state anti-discrimination laws. So it falls down to, I can discriminate upon you but you cannot upon me because I am of a special group.Should be the same down the board.Sent from the Strut ZoneI guess it all depends on how you're categorized. Although technically, it would be against the law in many states to refuse service just because a person is a Christian, white male...but that's never really been an issue.
Quote from: warrent423 on July 02, 2015, 09:40:09 PMTo hell with the fags, dykes, and all that support them. Those justices would swing from a rope if it where up to me. I'd run an extra rope for that treasonist, muslim basturd in the white house as well.
Quote from: warrent423 on July 02, 2015, 11:38:21 PMQuote from: BowBendr on July 02, 2015, 09:58:03 PM^^ And that response right there is the reason I can't fly my confederate flag, because people think I am just like you. America don't have time for your racist bull pelosi rants like this. We tried to keep this civil, and you had to wade in and muck it up. If you feel that way, keep that crap to yourself man, I don't like Obama either, but that was uncalled for......2015 Old Gobbler contest championsYou could never be like me. I'm not afraid to offend those that need offending ;)We fly a Stars and Stripes over a Stainless Banner with a Bar at my house here in Tn., as well as back home in FL. I've got kin that have been killed in action for both. Black, white, yellow, race has nothing to do with it to me. When the highest court in the land becomes corrupted to the point of no return and refuses to uphold their constitutional duty to this country, I believe they should be tried and convicted of a treasonous act and put to death. Of course, this is just the opinion of this God fearing, red blooded, traditional American "Patriot". Did I mention to hell with the fags, dykes, and all those who support them. Nancy Pelosi doesn't even know what state she is in
Quote from: BowBendr on July 02, 2015, 09:58:03 PM^^ And that response right there is the reason I can't fly my confederate flag, because people think I am just like you. America don't have time for your racist bull pelosi rants like this. We tried to keep this civil, and you had to wade in and muck it up. If you feel that way, keep that crap to yourself man, I don't like Obama either, but that was uncalled for......2015 Old Gobbler contest champions