Changes coming to Missouri...

[fsu33952]

Sure is nice to fish. skip rocks,ride around sightseeing in the afternoons in Mo.! We hear birds from our campground gobbling in the evenings, I believe this will all stop when the ridge runner, box callers are turned loose in the eve.

Evening hunting doesn't effect turkeys gobbling in the morning that much. We have always had all day hunting in Alabama. I have hunted turkeys on mostly public land for all my life and some years they gobble in the evenings and some years they don't. Turkeys are going to do what turkeys do. i think it has to do with hen ratios maybe. I have shot at gobblers in the evening and went back and have a turkey gobble like crazy the next morning in almost the same tree. I think in the fall they get all weird and adjust their patterns around pressure but not as much in the spring. If his hens are in an area then he is going to stay pretty close to that same place. I used to go to Florida a lot and hunt and the turkeys i hunted there never gobbled in the evening and would barely gobble on the ground. I talked to the forest service biologist there and he said it was because of coyotes jumping out of the palmettos on them. Who knows what they will do.

[Blong]

Sure is nice to fish. skip rocks,ride around sightseeing in the afternoons in Mo.! We hear birds from our campground gobbling in the evenings, I believe this will all stop when the ridge runner, box callers are turned loose in the eve.

Evening hunting doesn't effect turkeys gobbling in the morning that much. We have always had all day hunting in Alabama. I have hunted turkeys on mostly public land for all my life and some years they gobble in the evenings and some years they don't. Turkeys are going to do what turkeys do. i think it has to do with hen ratios maybe. I have shot at gobblers in the evening and went back and have a turkey gobble like crazy the next morning in almost the same tree. I think in the fall they get all weird and adjust their patterns around pressure but not as much in the spring. If his hens are in an area then he is going to stay pretty close to that same place. I used to go to Florida a lot and hunt and the turkeys i hunted there never gobbled in the evening and would barely gobble on the ground. I talked to the forest service biologist there and he said it was because of coyotes jumping out of the palmettos on them. Who knows what they will do.

I have hunted Ms all my life and evening gobbling is very rare here until the last week of april.

[Gobblers_nightmare]

Ohio went to all day in the second half of the season 2-3 years ago, and I don't think it's made much difference in the take.  I'll go most afternoons without ever seeing or hearing another hunter.
What has made a difference is the check system.  Guys are buying licenses online and printing multiples.  They're supposed to check them, online if they want.  They tag a bird, but never check it.  Then they just pull out a newly printed license. 
They're doing the same thing with deer, and I think it's hurt both populations.
I wish the state would go back to check stations and metal tags.

[DanT]

Ohio went to all day in the second half of the season 2-3 years ago, and I don't think it's made much difference in the take.  I'll go most afternoons without ever seeing or hearing another hunter.
What has made a difference is the check system.  Guys are buying licenses online and printing multiples.  They're supposed to check them, online if they want.  They tag a bird, but never check it.  Then they just pull out a newly printed license. 
They're doing the same thing with deer, and I think it's hurt both populations.
I wish the state would go back to check stations and metal tags.

Agree with you on the afternoon hunting having little impact. But don't agree with the license system change. A poacher is a poacher. If he's poaching now, he was poaching before. Its all about ethics, not convienence.

[stinkpickle]

Ohio went to all day in the second half of the season 2-3 years ago, and I don't think it's made much difference in the take.  I'll go most afternoons without ever seeing or hearing another hunter.
What has made a difference is the check system.  Guys are buying licenses online and printing multiples.  They're supposed to check them, online if they want.  They tag a bird, but never check it.  Then they just pull out a newly printed license. 
They're doing the same thing with deer, and I think it's hurt both populations.
I wish the state would go back to check stations and metal tags.

Agree with you on the afternoon hunting having little impact. But don't agree with the license system change. A poacher is a poacher. If he's poaching now, he was poaching before. Its all about ethics, not convienence.

Agreed.  Poachers never used check stations, either.

[kjnengr]

For guys doing multi day trips to locations that don't allow afternoon hunting, do you still go out and "hunt" the birds but leave the gun in the truck in order to roost/scout birds?

[BowBendr]

For guys doing multi day trips to locations that don't allow afternoon hunting, do you still go out and "hunt" the birds but leave the gun in the truck in order to roost/scout birds?

Yes, but I don't even have a gun in the truck.
I leave Mr. Greenjeans no wiggle room.



Sent from Gobblers Knob, NC

[Gobblers_nightmare]

Agree with you on the afternoon hunting having little impact. But don't agree with the license system change. A poacher is a poacher. If he's poaching now, he was poaching before. Its all about ethics, not convienence.

Agreed.  Poachers never used check stations, either.

I think the ease of printing their own tag, instead of using a state issued one is what has made the difference.  These guys can tag their bird and walk out of the woods without worrying about a game warden, they're legal if they happen to get checked.  They can drive back to camp or home, and they're still legal.  They're legal right up until time passes to check the animal.  By that time it's in the freezer, and a newly printed tag has come out.
It's not so easy to replace that state issued tag.  If they're going to poach, I'd like them to at least be a bit nervous about it. 

[owlhoot]

Agree with you on the afternoon hunting having little impact. But don't agree with the license system change. A poacher is a poacher. If he's poaching now, he was poaching before. Its all about ethics, not convienence.

Agreed.  Poachers never used check stations, either.

I think the ease of printing their own tag, instead of using a state issued one is what has made the difference.  These guys can tag their bird and walk out of the woods without worrying about a game warden, they're legal if they happen to get checked.  They can drive back to camp or home, and they're still legal.  They're legal right up until time passes to check the animal.  By that time it's in the freezer, and a newly printed tag has come out.
It's not so easy to replace that state issued tag.  If they're going to poach, I'd like them to at least be a bit nervous about it.

exactly how they do it i would bet, all they do is make it home. With the check station the Wardens make the women and kids nervous too, you know the ones with the tags who get out of the trucks in high heels and don't know to put the stock on the shoulder just under it.   With an 835 and nothing but 3 1/2" shells on them. ya that 60 pound 5 year old got that one.you bet

[stinkpickle]

Agree with you on the afternoon hunting having little impact. But don't agree with the license system change. A poacher is a poacher. If he's poaching now, he was poaching before. Its all about ethics, not convienence.

Agreed.  Poachers never used check stations, either.

I think the ease of printing their own tag, instead of using a state issued one is what has made the difference.  These guys can tag their bird and walk out of the woods without worrying about a game warden, they're legal if they happen to get checked.  They can drive back to camp or home, and they're still legal.  They're legal right up until time passes to check the animal.  By that time it's in the freezer, and a newly printed tag has come out.
It's not so easy to replace that state issued tag.  If they're going to poach, I'd like them to at least be a bit nervous about it.

exactly how they do it i would bet, all they do is make it home. With the check station the Wardens make the women and kids nervous too, you know the ones with the tags who get out of the trucks in high heels and don't know to put the stock on the shoulder just under it.   With an 835 and nothing but 3 1/2" shells on them. ya that 60 pound 5 year old got that one.you bet

Thinking back, I don't remember ever seeing an agent at a check station, even during the night check-in after the deer season opener.  It was usually just employees of the local business, and they all knew the "family taggers".