My plans with my cousin to hunt OK have fallen through for this year, and I was thinking about replacing that trip with a trip out to the black hills. I know there's been a lot of discussion about this hunt and I've gone through some of the old threads, but was curious if anyone had any input about bird numbers out there in the past year or two. I was out there in mid October with family and found a flock of hens and their poults when I had a little free time to go scout. I think they were in an area that may not be heavily hunted, compared to Custer where I always see them near the roads. If anyone has any tactics for someone planning to get off the beaten path to find birds, and any tactics of hunting these birds in the snow I would greatly appreciate it. Since it's replacing OK it will likely be during the opening week. So hoping to avoid mass crowds and be prepared for hunting in the snow (actually looking forward to the snow). Thanks in advance for any input you are willing to share.