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No luck with decoys????

Started by wisconsinteacher, April 28, 2014, 02:17:01 PM

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AndyH

Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 29, 2014, 12:15:01 PM
I've killed birds over dekes, and I've killed birds not using dekes. In woods that are thick enough, I let the gobbler hunt the hen he heard (my calls). In more open places, which I hunt a lot, I give the gobbler a visual to go along with what he heard. I have had some awesome experiences using decoys!! And I've had some bad experiences using decoys.
I've had strutters come out with a harem of hens, see Bmobile with a real fan over a "ready" hen, and come running to their death, leaving all the ladies behind. I've also had gobblers skirt my strutter deke. It happens.
I've had gobblers come in and whip my jake deke's butt, then die. I've had subordinate gobblers afraid to come in on a jake deke. It happens.
I've had gobblers come strutting in to a hen decoy only, then die. I've had gobblers stand out of range, look, then walk away from a hen decoy. It happens too.
The point is that there is no magic to decoys. The right bird, in the right place, at the right time is magical, and can produce outstanding hunts! But if you use decoys regularly, you must anticipate that there will be some bad results as well.
Sometimes it works well, sometimes it doesn't. Like all the other tactics in turkey hunting, the choice is a personal one. Do what you feel works best for you.
^^^ well said

carp84

I like dekes myself. Here in WI I do all my hunting 4-6th week. Seeing that on almost all the spots I hunt Im the 3-8th person to be hunting there and find the birds very call shy and what has worked best for me is setting up on a field I know the birds are working and set a hen dek up. I give her a little movement and the birds almost always come in without needing to touch the calls.

bamagtrdude

Here we go again, another thread on "To Deke or Not To Deke - That's My Question".  :) 

I'm not "married" to dekes, but I don't criticize others for using them; on most hunts, I use 'em, and I've *YET* in 15 years to see birds "spook" from them.  I've got video I just posted on my channel where I used a jake/hen setup, and had 6 jakes come into my setup w/out a problem.  Just my experience, but ...  I've never seen a bird spook off my dekes, and they're the crappy, foam FeatherFlex jake & hen dekes...

What I've "learned" w/dekes is to use 'em on pasture & wide open road birds, and then leave 'em in the bag on woods birds.  Birds that frequent pastures & walk roads, dekes seem to work fine; but when I'm hunting birds that like to stick to a head of woods, I usually make 'em try to find me, like LF Cox said.  I've killed birds in pastures w/out dekes before, as well - so, again, I'm not married to 'em to the point that I have to use them on each & every hunt.  But, I typically always carry them into the woods with me, in the event that I suspect they *might* work well, given a certain situation.
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Bama Guitar Dude (bamagtrdude)

ridgerunner

Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 29, 2014, 12:15:01 PM
I've killed birds over dekes, and I've killed birds not using dekes. In woods that are thick enough, I let the gobbler hunt the hen he heard (my calls). In more open places, which I hunt a lot, I give the gobbler a visual to go along with what he heard. I have had some awesome experiences using decoys!! And I've had some bad experiences using decoys.
I've had strutters come out with a harem of hens, see Bmobile with a real fan over a "ready" hen, and come running to their death, leaving all the ladies behind. I've also had gobblers skirt my strutter deke. It happens.
I've had gobblers come in and whip my jake deke's butt, then die. I've had subordinate gobblers afraid to come in on a jake deke. It happens.
I've had gobblers come strutting in to a hen decoy only, then die. I've had gobblers stand out of range, look, then walk away from a hen decoy. It happens too.
The point is that there is no magic to decoys. The right bird, in the right place, at the right time is magical, and can produce outstanding hunts! But if you use decoys regularly, you must anticipate that there will be some bad results as well.
Sometimes it works well, sometimes it doesn't. Like all the other tactics in turkey hunting, the choice is a personal one. Do what you feel works best for you.

My sentiments exactly. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.. if I had a decoy out and it didn't work I'd say I shouldn't of used it...if I had a decoy out and it worked, I'd say I should of used it..catch 22..I use them sometimes and sometimes I don't.

COssman14

Had an interesting experience 2 weeks ago. Me and my buddy set up on a field where we had been seeing 10+ birds a day. The field is very large so we split up he went to one end and I went to the other end with the idea of they had to walk in front of one of us. We had at least 9 different gobblers all around us. When the time came for them to fly down 2 toms in full strut entered the field in the middle of my buddy and I. They walked out into the field about 60 yards they looked up to the decoys my buddy had set out which was a Dakota Semi-Strut Jake and a Avian-X hen. They saw it went into full strut and turned into the opposite direction towards me. I only had a Avian-X hen set out facing towards me at about 15 yards. I yelped at them and had them gobble back went into full strut and circled me the closest I got them was about 65-70 yards. Its a debate whether they work or not because some people have success and others don't. Just thought I would share my story!
Why shoot a 3.5"? Because they don't make a 4".

MazeNBlu3

I've found that in certain situations they work others not at all. Saturday afternoon I sat 30 yards away from my Jake and 2 hen decoy setup. I heard a tom gobble and got ready, a few minutes later he entered the the field about 75 yards away. Once he saw the Jake with 2 hens he came running looking to fight. In this instance they worked.   

NECKRINGER

#21
I think my decoy question got deleted

There is no sure thing

Is rather have 200$ in one call then
200$ in decoys

NECKRINGER

Another thing

Set up and woodsman ship

You will learn a lot more about where a gobbler will come to and where he won't
Hunting without decoys

Which in return will help you kill turkeys in many different situations and areas

Spring_Woods


Quote from: NECKRINGER on April 29, 2014, 10:12:26 PM
Another thing

Set up and woodsman ship

You will learn a lot more about where a gobbler will come to and where he won't
Hunting without decoys

Which in return will help you kill turkeys in many different situations and areas

Ditto this ^

I prefer not to use a decoy unless necessary. If I do, it's a hen. No spread of any sorts. My farm is real open timber and pasture. A visual is always nice there.
"Was that a gobble?":gobble:

NECKRINGER

also
when hunting in the woods
if I gain 20 yds on a bird to put decoys out. why would I turn around and walk away from him and give him that 20 yds right back?
that is a retreat

trackerbucky

I think it's more important that you set up in a pace that the turkey already wants to be than whether or not you have decoys out.  IMHO scouting is much more important than having decoys out or not.
I love golf.  It keeps a lot of people out of the turkey woods.

NorfolkHunter

I bow hunt for turkeys and have a few friends that do too. We always run decoys but not just any decoy. We are all using DSD's. Our success ration has gone up significantly since using these things. We are running these decoys within 10 yards of our blinds.
I'm not a product pusher but I really do believe in the DSD's because we have seen the difference with our own eyes. They are costly but worth every penny for the success we have had with them.
I hunted the first 3 days of our season with them and had a tom into them each day. 2 birds were killed with bows.
In my opinion my calling would be the thing that makes toms hang up. I might over do it from time to time but just like hearing them gobble.