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why no #6 lead?

Started by cluck, April 07, 2014, 08:43:38 PM

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cluck

Does anybody know why they don't load #6 copper plated shot in 3" federal turkey thugs or winchester double x 20 ga. It's all #5 shot in fed. or win. I've killed lots of turkeys with six's at 1100 to 1150 fps. with the old 2 oz loads of #6s in federals.   cluck

surehuntsalot

I have wondered the same thing myself,would love to see a #6 Turkey Thug
it's not the harvest,it's the chase

R AJ

You ask a very good question that has a lot of us 20 gauge guys puzzled.

The Turkey Thug staff last year was unanimous in #5 shot being their favorite size shot. But, most,if not all, use 12 gauge guns. Perhaps that is why they only have #5 shot for 20 gauge and it is the dead center between #4 and #6 shot. Nice try but it doesn't address the limited amount of shot as compared to the smaller yet very effective #6 shot.

A few years ago Win was trying out their HD load in Fla. and in 20 gauge they were using #5 shot also so they chose to straddle production complexity by only using #5 shot.

Federal Flite Control shells do include a 3"- 1 5/16 oz. - #6 copper-plated lead and you can buy a 25 round box of Winchester 3-1 1/4-#6 but not as a true turkey shell. Pheasant loads available as well.
To answer your question I know of more people who would like to have the #6 shot available in 20 gauge than any other size. We only get 1 1/4 - 1 5/16 oz. of shot in lead loads so why not use the smallest of the #4-#6 options?
Hopefully Winchester will get enough feedback from 20 gauge users to make the #6 available in a 20 gauge Longbeard shell for 2015. If they don't, I'm getting their pheasant load when it come sout to see how it performs.

surehuntsalot

I'm going to give the new pheasant loads a try myself.
it's not the harvest,it's the chase

BandedSpur

Quote from: RAJ on April 08, 2014, 08:46:57 AM
You ask a very good question that has a lot of us 20 gauge guys puzzled.

The Turkey Thug staff last year was unanimous in #5 shot being their favorite size shot. But, most,if not all, use 12 gauge guns. Perhaps that is why they only have #5 shot for 20 gauge and it is the dead center between #4 and #6 shot. Nice try but it doesn't address the limited amount of shot as compared to the smaller yet very effective #6 shot.

A few years ago Win was trying out their HD load in Fla. and in 20 gauge they were using #5 shot also so they chose to straddle production complexity by only using #5 shot.

Federal Flite Control shells do include a 3"- 1 5/16 oz. - #6 copper-plated lead and you can buy a 25 round box of Winchester 3-1 1/4-#6 but not as a true turkey shell. Pheasant loads available as well.
To answer your question I know of more people who would like to have the #6 shot available in 20 gauge than any other size. We only get 1 1/4 - 1 5/16 oz. of shot in lead loads so why not use the smallest of the #4-#6 options?
Hopefully Winchester will get enough feedback from 20 gauge users to make the #6 available in a 20 gauge Longbeard shell for 2015. If they don't, I'm getting their pheasant load when it come sout to see how it performs.

Well said.

philipriley16

I have federal turkey thugs in 6 shot 20 3" mag WalMart had a few and I mean a few boxes shoot great

Yoder409

Has anyone patterned the 1 1/4 oz. pheasant loads to see how they stack up ??

I believe most of them are copper-plated and buffered.  I don't really care what picture is on the box if they shoot well.
PA elitist since 1979

The good Lord ain't made a gobbler I can't kill.  I just gotta be there at the right time.....  on the day he wants to die.

cluck

Philipriley 16: Would you please look on the box that contained the 3" 20 ga. #6 lead turkey thugs and send the item number. I can't find one listed on federal's web site. Many Thanks,    cluck

vpsalin

I will be shooting the #6 SuperPheasant 3'' Win ammo this year. It beat the DoubleXX, Supreme Turkey, Remington Nitro, Remington Prermier Turkey, etc. It beat them by a mile to be honest. Lead loads are all I can get locally for the moment and those win pheasant loads are the best I can find. Very huntable pattern 32-35 yards.
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