OldGobbler

OG Gear Store
Sum Toy
Dave Smith
Wood Haven
North Mountain Gear
North Mountain Gear
turkeys for tomorrow

News:

only use regular PayPal to provide purchase protection

Main Menu

Ethical or not!

Started by barry, August 12, 2012, 12:16:45 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

savduck

If the guy would have gut shot the deer or missed, would it have made his TV show?

I shot bows for years, many thousands of arrows. Shot on ranges with 100 yard targets. There are LOTS of issues with this shot being taken on live game, despite this dudes so called skill. Wind, animal moving, arrow being out of tune, loss of kinetic energy, yardage guessing error, shooter loosing his form after holding the bow back for two minutes, etc. Ethical? That's up to the man taking the shot. Me I think it's plain stupid and disrespectful to the animal.

How many have been to a tournament, how many guys are shooting those long shots with their hunting set ups.....very few. Many have extended stabilizers  and specialized sights, which is highly unlikely to be on a hunting bow.

The one thing I was taught from an early age by my father, was respect for the game. One shot, one kill. If the shot was iffy don't take it.  Do bad shots happen,  yep you bet. I've had some, but not because I was worried about making a TV show.
Georgia Boy

HARDCORE

The whole ethical, not ethical deal has so many variables, lack of common sense and or blatant disrespect for game is a given in the "not ethical" column.

In no way am I siding with the shooter in question, nor will I judge him on his ethics.

Each and everyone of us practice some form of tactic while hunting that someone, somewhere deems unethical to at least some degree.

HC



Houndstooth Game Calls


handcannon

I can understand and agree with everyone's post here. But, the one good point made was by Barry IMO. If the deer took one step one way or the other, especially at the angle that Barry said, it would have been either a clear miss or an arrow stuck in his butt cheek. More than likely, every bow hunter has made a bad shot or eventually will. Like Barry said though, a lot can happen in that 3 second period that it takes for that arrow to get down there and myself, I don't think it's worth the risk.

Houndstooth Game Calls

If your worried about one taking a step might as well not shoot. For instance I shot a 8 pnt at 10yds he took a step right into the shoulder blade the arrow went no blood no find. Yes I was sick about it but it happens now if that deer had been quartering he would have been dead larger room for error and if I am correct the shot he took was a quartering shot so he could have taken a step with it still being a high % kill shot being the sight pin would be on the last rib where impact of arrow should be. So he wasn't shooting at a grape fruit size but a paper plate size area and probably a little larger than that. IMO if you feel that 20 yds is your ethical limit then that's what you stick to but don't fault a better archer that is killing them at further distance. I myself wouldn't have taken the shot but I don't ever hunt out west so my shots stay 30yds are so and in but I don't fault him for capitalizing on a distant shot that it's no doubt the fella has practiced to become more than sufficient to make it. Jmo

gobbler74

Perfect conditions yes. Room for error? Not much at all. That is a life you are trying to end in the quickest way possible not just shooting a 3d target. Hard to put odds on live hunting and how often that shot would be successful or have the same scenario. Hope his luck keeps going.
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail"

barry

Quote from: handcannon on August 14, 2012, 03:39:44 AM
I can understand and agree with everyone's post here. But, the one good point made was by Barry IMO. If the deer took one step one way or the other, especially at the angle that Barry said, it would have been either a clear miss or an arrow stuck in his butt cheek. More than likely, every bow hunter has made a bad shot or eventually will. Like Barry said though, a lot can happen in that 3 second period that it takes for that arrow to get down there and myself, I don't think it's worth the risk.

I read the hunters blog on this particular hunt and in one sentence he said the animal was "perfectly broadside" when he shot, in the next sentence he said the animal was quartering hard away and the arrow entered in the "hip area"

guesswho

Call me righteous or whatever, but I don't care who you are and how much you practice, no one has any business shooting or shooting at any live animal at 100 yards with a bow and arrow. 
If I'm not back in five minutes, wait longer!
BodonkaDeke Prostaff
MoHo's Prostaff
Do unto others before others do unto you
Official Member Of The Unofficial Firedup Turkey
Calls Prostaff


dirt road ninja

Didn't need to be on TV for sure.

savduck

Quote from: guesswho on August 14, 2012, 03:22:46 PM
Call me righteous or whatever, but I don't care who you are and how much you practice, no one has any business shooting or shooting at any live animal at 100 yards with a bow and arrow. 

X3
Georgia Boy

Fatbeard

I practice all the time with my bow and shoot at fifty to sixty yards at home on a regular basis! A 100 yard shot is crazy crazy!! Olympic archers may shoot this distance but to shoot an animal this far is nonsense. The longest shot I have shot a deer with was 37 yards in a open field!
East TN Beard Buster