Sighting In Red Dot

[sswv]

I sight in off sandbags then shoot off my knee sitting in my turkey chair. More often than not I have to do "minor" adjustments. Also, I found out that when I sight in at 16yds with Federal low brass 7/8oz #7.5 shot 1210fps in my 20 gauges my 3" turkey loads hit spot on at 40yds. That's with 21" and 22" barrels.

Do you know why at all? It seems like your not as stable as you were with the sandbag and that could be it? I always thought a lead sled was designed to keep you still and take out any human error when sighting in a shot?

only thing I can think of is I must hold the gun a little different? I shoot at turkeys sitting flat on my butt most often off my knee not off the bench with sandbags. however, if I do make any adjustments it is always very minimal. been working for me so far so I'm gonna keep doing it the way that has always worked.

[strum]

I dont think a red dot such as a Fast Fire 3 cares how the cheek weld is. Some one can straighten me out on that if Im wrong. Ive used a sled for a long time and with good results.
  Today I used my bags instead . Let me say my shoulder is not happy with that decision.

[TMeering]

That's just not how Red Dots work.

You definitely toyed with the gun (Like cleaned it when the dot is on the stock) or made a bad correction on the dot.

gun was brand new with a fast fire 3...i don't care what gun it is or what sight it is if you hold it differently than the way you shoot it with a sled it will have a different point of impact... not looking to argue. This is my experience. Never understood how someone can ask for peoples experiences with a certain topic and have someone else tell you your wrong as if they've  shot their gun or are that person.

[Jbird22]

I shoot mine out of a BOG tripod now, but used to use regular front and rear bags. I have never cared for a lead-sled when shooting anything. I want the gun to be against my shoulder as it will be when I'm hunting. That's my preference but to each his own.

[TrackeySauresRex]

I've never missed a turkey because of using a sled with sighting my gun

Now wait, I can NOW blame the sled for my misses.. Great Idea ... everyone ...

I use bags always. 1st a field load. Then a good shell I've been doing it for a good bit like that now. I'm pretty good missing on my own now. I usually blame the sun in my eyes. I can't believe it'd be a sled or bags that would create a big difference..

[Greg Massey]

I've never missed a turkey because of using a sled with sighting my gun

Now wait, I can NOW blame the sled for my misses.. Great Idea ... everyone ...

I use bags always. 1st a field load. Then a good shell I've been doing it for a good bit like that now. I'm pretty good missing on my own now. I usually blame the sun in my eyes. I can't believe it'd be a sled or bags that would create a big difference..

[BDeal]

I definitely do not see a difference between shooting off of a bench or seated or prone for that matter when using a rifle or shotgun. i don't understand why there would be a difference.

[g8rvet]

My understanding is that the more paralax free the red dot is, the less difference in gun mount.  Even one that is very good will have minor differences, especially at very close or very far ranges.  If you tend to cant your gun (which is common with shotgun shooters) you should definitely shoot it not on a sled.  I am no expert, just going by what I have been told by some that are experts. 

[strum]

My understanding is that the more paralax free the red dot is, the less difference in gun mount.  Even one that is very good will have minor differences, especially at very close or very far ranges.  If you tend to cant your gun (which is common with shotgun shooters) you should definitely shoot it not on a sled.  I am no expert, just going by what I have been told by some that are experts.

 Thats about what im thinking...  Greg cant shoot anyway. so its good he has some new excuses..

[Greg Massey]

My understanding is that the more paralax free the red dot is, the less difference in gun mount.  Even one that is very good will have minor differences, especially at very close or very far ranges.  If you tend to cant your gun (which is common with shotgun shooters) you should definitely shoot it not on a sled.  I am no expert, just going by what I have been told by some that are experts.

 Thats about what im thinking...  Greg cant shoot anyway. so its good he has some new excuses..

Amen

[lunghit]

I have never seen a difference and always use a Lead sled.

[Tail Feathers]

I use sandbags.  I've never missed a turkey... because my gun wasn't sighted in properly.
I wish I could write that without the second part of that sentence!

[Upfold99]

I thought the whole point of reflex type sight was it didn't matter how you shouldered the gun or had your head in awkward circumstances, if the gun is sighted in and the dot is on him it's all the same. Didn't matter if dot was in the top corner of the glass, or in the dead center of the glass, due to head alignment. If i'm wrong please educate me.

As for me I use bags. But I just think it prevents some of the recall going back into the gun after the shot, due to the heavy less forgiving sled. As much shock as I can keep out of that sight, the happier I am.

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[TooTallOutdoorss]

I dont think a red dot such as a Fast Fire 3 cares how the cheek weld is. Some one can straighten me out on that if Im wrong. Ive used a sled for a long time and with good results.
  Today I used my bags instead . Let me say my shoulder is not happy with that decision.

Thats what I always thought as well. When sighting in with a red dot that dot is floating in theory and is parallax free meaning wherever that red do is pointing its going to hit there. So I dont understand how it can shoot differently from a sled to free hand unless it is human error which can be not being as steaqdy and the red dot floating around more.

[TooTallOutdoorss]

I thought the whole point of reflex type sight was it didn't matter how you shouldered the gun or had your head in awkward circumstances, if the gun is sighted in and the dot is on him it's all the same. Didn't matter if dot was in the top corner of the glass, or in the dead center of the glass, due to head alignment. If i'm wrong please educate me.

As for me I use bags. But I just think it prevents some of the recall going back into the gun after the shot, due to the heavy less forgiving sled. As much shock as I can keep out of that sight, the happier I am.

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This is exactly what I always thought was told. If your red dot is parallax free then you should not have to worry about the direction or where on the glass the red dot is. You could hit a bullseye with the red dot in the middle of the screen or off to one of the corners as long as that dot is on where you want to hit. For those shooting iron sights I can maybe see why if your not covering the bead the same way from the sled and while sitting against a tree which is possible being a sled can get bulky and make you grab it in a funky way. But a parallax free red dot should always hit where its pointing once dialed in.