Missouri Nonresident tag jump again.

[Neill_Prater]

The old adage 'be careful what you wish for " certainly comes to mind. I've read posting after posting on this forum complaining about how social media is ruining turkey hunting in general and your local area in particular, but most people were so short sighted in their views, they didn't stop to think that the solution to the problem was likely going to rain on their parade as well.

Dropping the limit for nonresidents and not for residents, does little or nothing to help the turkey population, nor does making license costs prohibitive. In my opinion, it only benefits three groups of people, the first being the resident hunter who has no desire to travel, likely a fairly large percentage of hunters in most states. The second is the anti hunter who would like to see all hunting banned and is overjoyed when any overly restrictive regulation makes it tougher to do so. The third are the well heeled. Those fortunate enough to be in a position where cost is not a factor are not going to hunt less, they will just go to more states and enter more lotteries and purchase more limited availability tags than they might have before making it even tougher for the average Joe to hunt in the future.



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[arkrem870]

nobody can say they weren't warned about embracing influencers and corporate money into turkey hunting....
What was foretold has happened and it suck's but was inevitable. Keep liking and subscribing....

[silent tom]

People have came around to the modern day braggart turkey hunter with a camera in his face. 
But it's too late now. 
You guys who embraced this keep sending Dave pictures of your bottomland thong and little THP Ted fantasy love letters. 
You may as well embrace what has happened. 


You want to see if you are turkey hunting for the right reason? Go kill a gobbler and tell no one.  If the thrill is the same as telling people, you are doing what you love for the right reason. 
If you have to tell people to get a dopamine release, then you're part of the problem. 


The truth hurts sometimes. 

[CALLM2U]

"Death by a thousand cuts" but YouTubers are completely to blame 

[Ctrize]

MO is a special place for me; I shot my first out of state bird coming from Michigan there and have had access to couple of farms recently. When I sit and listen the MDC biologist tell me only 3% of hunters shoot two birds in the spring and then lower the limit it makes me scratch my head. The biggest reason I traveled was to increase my hunt days to hunt multiple birds. I will be staying closer to home for a single bird.

[sasquatch1]

"Death by a thousand cuts" but YouTubers are completely to blame 

Didn't Fact check it, but it's likely true


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[NOmad]

"Death by a thousand cuts" but YouTubers are completely to blame 

The data may not be readily available but is there if you look for it. Do you really think a page like The Hunting Public (who readily names states and are not quite spies when it comes to being sneaky about locations) who has 320 MILLION views in the last ~9 years is not having a drastic impact on drawing attention to the sport and in turn reducing available opportunity? For reference, the population of the USA is ~341 million people - THP is projected to have ~440 MILLION views by 2030.

Also - I love your username on here, I saw a license plate with that on it a couple years ago at a WMA in the midwest and it made me chuckle. 

[slave601]

I ran into the hunting public guys a few years back at a local Wma in Mississippi. They were nice guys and polite but I asked them how about just stop naming states and just post your videos. They gave me a long spill about how it's not fair to the every day Joe or weekend warrior to withhold info blah blah. I don't have social media so I'm not sure how much of an impact they have but I do see their videos get a lot of likes and such.

[Dtrkyman]

THP seems to have less info on where they hunt in recent videos?  We shall see what comes up on their up coming turkey videos, and yes I will watch them when I am so inclined.

The worst place I hunt in terms of public land idiots are all locals in my experience, ignorant and zero regard for laws or common courtesy!

[CALLM2U]

"Death by a thousand cuts" but YouTubers are completely to blame 

Didn't Fact check it, but it's likely true


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Statistics 101.  Correlation doesn't equal causation. 

There was something that happened around 2020.... Something kinda big that put everyone out of work to find a new hobby that is AMAZING and fun! 

[dublelung]

I'm fine with the 1 bird limit but not so much the huge price increase AND reduced limit. That will sure enough have the Ziplock gang feeling like they need to get their money's worth. Dumb move imo!

[sasquatch1]

"Death by a thousand cuts" but YouTubers are completely to blame 

Didn't Fact check it, but it's likely true


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Statistics 101.  Correlation doesn't equal causation. 

There was something that happened around 2020.... Something kinda big that put everyone out of work to find a new hobby that is AMAZING and fun!

So only that correlation is causation?? Lol

I guarantee if it was covid, it was because they had time to first watch the videos to realize it was possible.

People didn't sit home and say "hey man let's go hunt the public land we always were scared to go too"


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[sasquatch1]

I would also venture to say a large % of people who are outdoorsman and into it at all still had to work.

I don't know anyone who sat home, but all I know for the most part are blue collar people or ones working under business that were classified as essential.

Now if we are just talking about people who went camping, diff story.

Maybe where I'm at and my circle of people aren't the norm, idk


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[deerhunt1988]

"Death by a thousand cuts" but YouTubers are completely to blame 

Didn't Fact check it, but it's likely true


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Statistics 101.  Correlation doesn't equal causation. 

There was something that happened around 2020.... Something kinda big that put everyone out of work to find a new hobby that is AMAZING and fun! 

Yes, COVID caused non resident turkey hunting license sales/applications to double or even triple in some states. COVID whispered in their ear, "Go to Montana, young Man!" , "Go to South Florida, young man!" Lmao

[arkrem870]

Covid is the gift that keeps giving then.....