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3 Pennsylvania Hunters shot in separate incidents

Started by Bridger, May 22, 2025, 06:20:47 PM

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Lcmacd 58

It happens every year .... having hunted most of my life this always this al

 makes me wonder what are people thinking

YoungGobbler

I really can't believe how you can mis-identified a HUNTER as a TURKEY...

Meleagris gallopavo

Quote from: Lcmacd 58 on May 22, 2025, 06:30:47 PMIt happens every year .... having hunted most of my life this always this al

 makes me wonder what are people thinking
Either they aren't thinking or how they "think" is the problem.  I think seasoned hunters have a hard time conceiving how these things happen.


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I live and hunt by empirical evidence.

3bailey3

I thought Pa, you had to wear orange while moving?

strum

Quote from: Meleagris gallopavo on May 22, 2025, 06:35:36 PM
Quote from: Lcmacd 58 on May 22, 2025, 06:30:47 PMIt happens every year .... having hunted most of my life this always this al

 makes me wonder what are people thinking
Either they aren't thinking or how they "think" is the problem. I think seasoned hunters have a hard time conceiving how these things happen.


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My mind does not wrap around how this can happen. Every turkey i ever shot I was waiting, identifying, waiting for the shot. is his head still is he out of strut am I on his cockels ect. These guys are just slinging shots at whatever they see. Glad to hear the victims survived.

Ihuntoldschool

Quote from: YoungGobbler on May 22, 2025, 06:35:04 PMI really can't believe how you can mis-identified a HUNTER as a TURKEY...

They're not identifying anything and there's no excuse for it but it happens every year in multiple states.
Always the same way, hunter mistaken for a turkey.
Been quite a few on this forum have been shot.
Several have posted their stories in past.

Guy had probably been calling, heard turkey gobbling like the victim did, caught movement from that direction, maybe saw some skin showing the white of hunters face for instance
No excuse. But time and time again it's proven some hunters will shoot at movement or what they thought was a turkey.

Private land is never as private as you think it is.



Yoder409

Quote from: 3bailey3 on May 22, 2025, 08:56:47 PMI thought Pa, you had to wear orange while moving?

That got eliminated years ago.

BUT.......

PA law states that spring birds MUST BE IDENTIFIED AS BEING BEARDED AND MUST BE CALLED TO YOUR LOCATION.   No bushwhacking.  No stalking.  CALLED.   TO YOU.

It's mind-boggling.
PA elitist since 1979

The good Lord ain't made a gobbler I can't kill.  I just gotta be there at the right time.....  on the day he wants to die.

Dtrkyman

It seems mind boggling, however it seems generally an experienced hunter is the shooter!

zelmo1

My little pea brain can't wrap around it but it does happen. My wife got sprayed last year while we were on a private farm surrounded by posted land. They shot her flopping bird, in her direction, and did a grab and run. I was pig biting mad, but couldn't catch up to them before they got to theil truck and pulled off. Scary thing when pellets rip by your face. I got 3 #5 lead in the face while pheasant hunting 40 years ago. It is a scary thing. Be safe everyone. :jesus-cross:  :jesus-cross:  :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an  :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an Z

Number17

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Quote from: Yoder409 on May 22, 2025, 10:06:50 PM
Quote from: 3bailey3 on May 22, 2025, 08:56:47 PMI thought Pa, you had to wear orange while moving?

That got eliminated years ago.

BUT.......

PA law states that spring birds ......MUST BE CALLED TO YOUR LOCATION.  No bushwhacking.  CALLED  TO YOU.

It's mind-boggling.

That was never true and it has recently been clarified. You do not need to call to turkeys to legally kill them. You can sit in silence or shoot one as you see it while walking down a logging road. Heck, you can shoot one off the roost as long as it's legal shooting hours.
What you can't do is hear or see turkeys and sneak up on them in order to shoot them directly. No crawling, stalking, reaping......
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Number17

The PGC loves to leave things open to interpretation. I call the Game Code the 50 shades of gray book because there are so many "gotcha" phrases in it.

If moving closer to a gobbling bird is stalking, I've been a criminal my whole life.
One of the biggest misconceptions with Pa hunters is that you "must call a turkey to your location." That is absolutely untrue. I mean that's the essence of turkey hunting and the most fun way to do it, but setting up a silent ambush or just suddenly walking into a turkey and killing it is not illegal.
You do not have to possess a call, use a call, or make any noises whatsoever to kill a Spring gobbler legally in Pa.
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Number17

Quote from: joey46 on May 23, 2025, 07:03:13 AMStill ambiguous - would trying to close the distance on a gobbling bird be considered stalking?  On a clear still morning with my Game Ears I'm sure I can hear one at 1/4 mile maybe more.  Normally given the right conditions I would try and cut that distance considerably before picking a tree, setting up the Funky Chicken and sitting down to call.  Is that stalking? 

My most successful hunts are when using terrain to my advantage to get within what I called the "red zone" or his "bubble" before I start talking to him. Usually under 75 yards if I can manage it. Sometimes much closer. I'm often making one short series of calls and getting my gun up expecting him to be there within seconds.
Is that "stalking"? Well.........that's open to interpretation unfortunately
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10th Legionaire

I took the Indiana Hunter Education Course in'93 when it first started even though I was grandfathered in due to age. I took it because my buddy and I were planning on going out west to hunt and whatever state we were looking at required it.

The CO teaching it was a good friend of my buddy and I had hunted with him on several occasions. He later went on to become a higher up in the enforcement division. Several times during the course people presented hypothetical scenarios to him asking what the rule of law would be and most of the time he would answer "it's up to the CO who you are dealing with". Of course, if you get a ticket you don't have to just pay it you can go to court and fight it.

Not a good answer for those of us that like cut and dry/black and white answers.
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paboxcall

The PA regulation states "No Stalking. Hunting by calling only."

If you hear a bird at 200 yards, and close the distance by 100 yards, that isn't stalking. If you try to maneuver within shotgun distance instead to snipe him without making a call, you stalked.

Stalking is what happened to a good buddy, he set out his jake and hen decoy to do blind calling. Another hunter hearing the yelping above him, stalked into the setup without calling himself once, and upon seeing the jake decoy he shot it. The payload carried beyond the dekes striking my buddy at about 75 yards. Fortunately he was wearing his prescription safety glasses from work, it saved his eyes.
A quality paddle caller will most run itself.  It just needs someone to carry it around the woods. Yoder409

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