Surveys are going out

[Cowboy]

Ban the shooting of Jakes and possession of turkey fans while hunting!!

100 %

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[deerhunt1988]

Some on here would qualify for the mentally handicapped exemption.

Hmmmmmm... 

[Happy]

Ban everything. It's the American way.  Pathetic.  Some on here would qualify for the mentally handicapped exemption.

Hey! I resemble that remark! While we are working on our Christmas list to Sandy Clause. Can I request a free kick to the nards to anyone caught trespassing or shooting from a vehicle? Add roost shooting to that list as well.

[Gooserbat]

These surveys are "hunter satisfaction" based. Very few involve wildlife biology or turkey reproduction and recruitment.

Exactly... We got a one bird limit in Oklahoma because 30% of those surveyed said they supported it and that's what the wildlife department will tell you.

[arkrem870]

It's like saying ..... I've got skin cancer. Hopefully they can remove it and with treatment I can get back to some kind of normal after a while. But by god I'm not wearing sunscreen or protective cloths afterward!

We must learn from our mistakes or we will repeat them

[arkrem870]

 

[idgobble]

Take a look at the "Spring hunt success for states" topic for some opinions on surveys!

[deerhunt1988]

Right because we all know sooooooo much more than the game biologists who help set the season dates and bag limits. 

Kind of an ironic comment considering how many changes we've saw in recent seasons that weren't exactly science based. It varies from state to state, but some states do take public comment in for major consideration. Normally depends on the wildlife commission of each state.

It wasn't turkey season, but I'm aware of an occasion where a few people showing up at a commission meeting for public comment helped get season dates changed for another bird species. Then a few years later the season went right back to what it was. lol.

[CALLM2U]

I have been hunting turkeys in multiple  states for years before there was THP or a pinhead project let alone Facebook or whatever the desperate for attention spend their lives staring at on a phone.
Most of the unethical mouth breathers you run into are fanboys of the Utube hero's. They probably couldn't spell Turkey hunt before they saw it on their phones. Stop the filming on public land and they'll go back to playing video games in the basement or dungeon's and dragons or whatever they did before. Most people are sheep and without direction they will have to do something else. It's made a few flat brimmed hat wearing retards some money and created a horde of wannabee fanboy sheep filing up the woods with stupid.
If you haven't seen a marked decline in the quality of public land hunting your either brain dead or haven't hunted public land enough for your opinions to matter. And none of this has helped the wild Turkey one single bit.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. Statistics 101. OnX, the pandemic, ubran sprawl, predators, farming practices, publication of state statistics etc the list goes on and on.   There is zero way to prove to what degree, if any, filming on public has impacted turkey hunting.

The emotional response to banning filming is no different than the states who moved season dates claiming it would improve numbers without any data or evidence. 

It IS entertaining to watch ya'll throw a temper tantrum though. Reminds me of November of 2016.   

[arkrem870]

I have been hunting turkeys in multiple  states for years before there was THP or a pinhead project let alone Facebook or whatever the desperate for attention spend their lives staring at on a phone.
Most of the unethical mouth breathers you run into are fanboys of the Utube hero's. They probably couldn't spell Turkey hunt before they saw it on their phones. Stop the filming on public land and they'll go back to playing video games in the basement or dungeon's and dragons or whatever they did before. Most people are sheep and without direction they will have to do something else. It's made a few flat brimmed hat wearing retards some money and created a horde of wannabee fanboy sheep filing up the woods with stupid.
If you haven't seen a marked decline in the quality of public land hunting your either brain dead or haven't hunted public land enough for your opinions to matter. And none of this has helped the wild Turkey one single bit.

Truth 100%.

[arkrem870]

I have been hunting turkeys in multiple  states for years before there was THP or a pinhead project let alone Facebook or whatever the desperate for attention spend their lives staring at on a phone.
Most of the unethical mouth breathers you run into are fanboys of the Utube hero's. They probably couldn't spell Turkey hunt before they saw it on their phones. Stop the filming on public land and they'll go back to playing video games in the basement or dungeon's and dragons or whatever they did before. Most people are sheep and without direction they will have to do something else. It's made a few flat brimmed hat wearing retards some money and created a horde of wannabee fanboy sheep filing up the woods with stupid.
If you haven't seen a marked decline in the quality of public land hunting your either brain dead or haven't hunted public land enough for your opinions to matter. And none of this has helped the wild Turkey one single bit.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. Statistics 101. OnX, the pandemic, ubran sprawl, predators, farming practices, publication of state statistics etc the list goes on and on.   There is zero way to prove to what degree, if any, filming on public has impacted turkey hunting.

The emotional response to banning filming is no different than the states who moved season dates claiming it would improve numbers without any data or evidence. 

It IS entertaining to watch ya'll throw a temper tantrum though. Reminds me of November of 2016.   

Are you being serious? 

[mdmitchell]

The for profit filming on federal lands is a huge issue that does not get talked enough about. One of the 7 tenants of the NA model of wildlife conservation is the elimination of commercial hunting for game. If a guy is hunting, posting it online and making money, is that not commercial hunting? How have we just ignored that this is going on?

I can tell you the woods here in IN were full of guys from the south this spring (no offense to any of you). I for one would love if we would limit our season to residents only for the first 3-5 days ON PUBLIC LAND. I know that might rub the traveling group wrong but as someone that does some non resident hunting, I would totally get it if another state around me implemented this.

[CALLM2U]

 

[arkrem870]

The for profit filming on federal lands is a huge issue that does not get talked enough about. One of the 7 tenants of the NA model of wildlife conservation is the elimination of commercial hunting for game. If a guy is hunting, posting it online and making money, is that not commercial hunting? How have we just ignored that this is going on?

I can tell you the woods here in IN were full of guys from the south this spring (no offense to any of you). I for one would love if we would limit our season to residents only for the first 3-5 days ON PUBLIC LAND. I know that might rub the traveling group wrong but as someone that does some non resident hunting, I would totally get it if another state around me implemented this.

You are correct. Commercial hunting/filming on public land is not catch and release.  All public land hunters must give up something so the commercial film guys can get something for nothing.  For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. It's Newton's third law. It's not hard to understand why we are where we are. Many deniers are either on the take $ or fan boy status

[CALLM2U]

What makes me laugh is these fan boys with the Pinhoti outfits. I should have taken a picture couple weeks back when I saw two of them together, a big fat one and a skinny one both with the bino pouch, leg gaiters pin head hats and all. If those  two clowns weren't a perfect example of what the sport has become I don't know what is.

This statement says a lot more about your character than it does theirs.