THP / Fine / Warden

[eggshell]

Yeah, Joey, but we love watching train wrecks

[sasquatch1]

A WMA is state controlled.

Just like the game on it, under state regulations

Also, was Ted just nature walking or did he specifically go to take part in a hunt?


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[arkrem870]

Heck they don't allow you in the open National Forest either if you are assisting in a hunt.  I didn't draw the non resident permit and couldn't assist my kids on youth hunt on open National forest

[Greg Massey]

I made the post and everyone so far has been mostly respectful... Lots of good posts have been made about this topic / conversation and I don't see it as a train wreck at all. 

Now if you want to take it down that rabbit hole i'm sure we can, lets not act crazy and cause drama while enjoying and sharing good honest opinions with other members about the law / laws and how we feel, its all about bring awareness to the new Law in Mississippi and other states that have similar,

To answer your question, I'm the long time poster who started this post and as long as we act like adults, I don't see it being a train wreck... NOW if you feel the need to make it a train wreck kind of post then just move on and don't post. People have a right to opinions as long as they are within the drama free zone of this forum and OG ...

[bbcoach]

Did any long time poster on this forum not know how this thread was going to go?

I don't see this as a Train Wreck, but I'll let Greg Chime in with his thoughts.  IMO, this is about MS and other States Trampling on our 1st Amendment Constitutional Right.  Why do we as citizens of the United States have to have a license to film or take pictures on any Public property?  If they can get away with this with Hunters, then Birdwatchers, Nature Lovers and maybe your Cellular Cameras will be next in line.  Everyone will need a LICENSE (TAX) to participate in any endeavor.  This is why we fought England and started our own Union of States.

[Greg Massey]

look at the number of views this post has already received almost 2000 so in my opinion that's really good. So everyone let's not let a few others try and make this a train wreck. We have shared some really good opinions and content / information... thank you for the ones who have shared DRAMA FREE content... It's all about making everyone aware of this law .... 


Again I do appreciate it.... The long poster ...

[sasquatch1]

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[sasquatch1]

Ark, I get that but kids have to be with a Licensed hunter.

I'm in the same boat as you, been hunting a specific forest for almost twenty years in a row have now been locked out until April.

Last year I just went to Florida, this year I joined several clubs to give me acreage to hunt.

It sucks, but the last thing I'll do is come to any THP defense


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[sasquatch1]

Bb, he was not out filming the leaves

He  Specifically went to partake in a Hunt! Otherwise he would not have been there and you know it. 

He also did it for monetary gain, so he can shell out some for the ability to make money off the resource that was being HUNTED


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[arkrem870]

I'm most definitely not defending thp. Them and others have done irreparable damage to turkey hunters/hunting.

I am point out that the current system is broken in the south east when youth hunts take a hit. And youth hunts are have no bearing on populations. The harvest is biologically insignificant. It's just another tit for tat rule to restrict.

The whole south east needs an overhaul. And these states need to get on the same page. Heck when I worked at the Arkansas game and fish years ago we had coop meetings regularly

[sasquatch1]

There's an old thread on here somewhere where it was alarming how many people supported not  even having youth seasons at all.


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[sasquatch1]

Maybe some will be happy when there's no money for conservation, no lands to hunt unless you own, and or no game left to hunt or catch.

We all want things for free until there's nothing there.

Let's be real, most of us hunt public because there's a lot more land available to us for very cheap, a lot cheaper than trying to own, on top of overall having more game due to more land.

Most could likely at max own small acreage, good luck hunting turkeys on your 40 acres or whatever it may be.

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a decent chuck of land in MS if I chose to want to spend the money there, and I still realize, 2-300 acres wouldn't provide me what I get out of the millions of acres of public land available to me.

Therefore that money sits there just trying to generate more money.

Things ain't cheap, go try and manage a 30k acre WMA and let me know if those WMA permit fees are enough for much more than maybe some bush hogged roads.

When people drive $60k vehicles with $2-4k e-bikes in the back to the national forest gates, I tend not to feel sorry that they may have to buy a license to go enjoy land they could never afford to own.


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[arkrem870]

Maybe some will be happy when there's no money for conservation, no lands to hunt unless you own, and or no game left to hunt or catch.

We all want things for free until there's nothing there.

Let's be real, most of us hunt public because there's a lot more land available to us for very cheap, a lot cheaper than trying to own, on top of overall having more game due to more land.

Most could likely at max own small acreage, good luck hunting turkeys on your 40 acres or whatever it may be.

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a decent chuck of land in MS if I chose to want to spend the money there, and I still realize, 2-300 acres wouldn't provide me what I get out of the millions of acres of public land available to me.

Therefore that money sits there just trying to generate more money.

Things ain't cheap, go try and manage a 30k acre WMA and let me know if those WMA permit fees are enough for much more than maybe some bush hogged roads.

When people drive $60k vehicles with $2-4k e-bikes in the back to the national forest gates, I tend not to feel sorry that they may have to buy a license to go enjoy land they could never afford to own.


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Heck I bought a 300 + acre property in Kansas and they eliminated the non resident hunt own land turkey tag two years later . I have to draw in the lottery to hunt my own property (which I failed to draw). So buying property isn't safe at this point either. Now Kansas residents are trying to do away with the non resident hunt own land deer tags.

What I'm saying is as hunters we've got to find some ways to spread out the pressure. Our current trajectory of lost opportunity sucks big time.

[sasquatch1]

I agree Ark. idk how to solve the deer as it's a bit diff. Everyone wants those giants that don't live everywhere

But turkeys are kind of season driven. I thing regional areas need to be more aligned on their openers but it can't be done without give and take

Also, funding to secure more public lands from turning into housing. But that takes money and we don't like paying

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[runngun]

MS could come up with an easy solution then BB,

Only those who draw the dates for the WMA can be on said WMA. Honestly I'd like that better myself I think.

I think ALOT of you are mixing this up with someone on an open National forest etc etc.


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I think that is exactly what they have done. Since the violator is a NON RESIDENT, it's draw only for NON RESIDENT for the 1st two weeks of the season in Mississippi.  He can have a whole stack of licenses but if he did not draw he is in VIOLATION.  He kept saying that he read the laws before season but he missed THAT PART!!! BOLD LETTERS. Must be a reading comprehension issue.

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