TSS prices will go up soon

[Upfold99]

My current brand was $95 a box for 20 ga, at NWTF. I'm considering looking at something different, once I shoot the 3 boxes I have.

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[Swampmonkey]

2-1/2 ounces of nickel plated lead #4's want to know why TSS is needed?

China can keep their expensive TSS...

Cuz an ounce and a half of nines patterns better and doesn't break your jaw from recoil...lol

Amen to that

[KNF]

Meanwhile
I got (5)10 round boxes of Winchester Supreme #5s for $10 a box. 🤣

The old Wingmaster loves them the gobblers don't

[bwhana]

I have been buying after season close outs for years I'm sitting at my 177 tss rounds split between 20/28/410. I guess I'm good until I retire and start hunting all the states!

[mountainhunter1]

I have been buying after season close outs for years I'm sitting at my 177 tss rounds split between 20/28/410. I guess I'm good until I retire and start hunting all the states!

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[patternfreak]

Cuz an ounce and a half of nines patterns better and doesn't break your jaw from recoil...lol

Ya know I used to say the exact same thing, but it's just not the truth. So much misinformation out there that's been spread throughout the years. Let's break it down!

Everybody wants to shoot 1-5/8oz of shot out of a little 5 pound 20 gauge. Apex usually runs about 1200 FPS. With these specs you are producing 69.2 foot pounds of felt recoil.

In an SP-10 Remington, shooting 2.5oz of lead at 1200 FPS, you produce 71.8 foot pounds of felt recoil. Just 2 more pounds. The difference is negligible.

In my experience, the heavier 10ga has a much gentler recoil than the sharp recoil of a light 20 gauge

Those lightweight sub gauge guns shooting heavy payloads of TSS are recoil machines

[Twowithone]

2-1/2 ounces of nickel plated lead #4's want to know why TSS is needed?

China can keep their expensive TSS...

Cuz an ounce and a half of nines patterns better and doesn't break your jaw from recoil...lol

Shoot a 20 guage. 3 in the head he,s dead

[Dtrkyman]

The velocity of my 20ga load is only 1090 and I am under 1 5/8th oz. Recoil is a non issue.

The last gun I would ever carry into the turkey woods is an SP 10!  Well maybe second to last

[CALLM2U]

Cuz an ounce and a half of nines patterns better and doesn't break your jaw from recoil...lol

Ya know I used to say the exact same thing, but it's just not the truth. So much misinformation out there that's been spread throughout the years. Let's break it down!

Everybody wants to shoot 1-5/8oz of shot out of a little 5 pound 20 gauge. Apex usually runs about 1200 FPS. With these specs you are producing 69.2 foot pounds of felt recoil.

In an SP-10 Remington, shooting 2.5oz of lead at 1200 FPS, you produce 71.8 foot pounds of felt recoil. Just 2 more pounds. The difference is negligible.

In my experience, the heavier 10ga has a much gentler recoil than the sharp recoil of a light 20 gauge

Those lightweight sub gauge guns shooting heavy payloads of TSS are recoil machines

I don't think 5lb 20g guns are common.  Most are in that 6-6.5lb range. 

That being said, I have some 1.5oz TSS 12g loads.  They pattern exactly like my 20g but the gun is a pound heavier. 

I don't feel the recoil on either when I'm shooting a longbeard, but I feel the difference on my shoulder carrying it around the mountains days on end.

[Greg Massey]

You know we are all complaining about the prices of TSS and most of us don't have a problem paying for calls that have gone up in price .. calls that used to cost 100 dollars for example now cost 500 pus to a 1000 dollars... I think you know what calls i'm talking about.. LOL

So I'm not going to let the price of TSS make me go back to carrying my 12 gauge for NOW ... YOU never know what the future may hold... IMO

[davisd9]

You know we are all complaining about the prices of TSS and most of us don't have a problem paying for calls that have gone up in price .. calls that used to cost 100 dollars for example now cost 500 pus to a 1000 dollars... I think you know what calls i'm talking about.. LOL

So I'm not going to let the price of TSS make me go back to carrying my 12 gauge for NOW ... YOU never know what the future may hold... IMO

I have issue with a lot of the call prices, probably more that than the TSS. The rising cost of TSS makes sense, $200 pot calls do not.


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[aclawrence]

You know we are all complaining about the prices of TSS and most of us don't have a problem paying for calls that have gone up in price .. calls that used to cost 100 dollars for example now cost 500 pus to a 1000 dollars... I think you know what calls i'm talking about.. LOL

So I'm not going to let the price of TSS make me go back to carrying my 12 gauge for NOW ... YOU never know what the future may hold... IMO

I have issue with a lot of the call prices, probably more that than the TSS. The rising cost of TSS makes sense, $200 pot calls do not.


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I was completely shocked at the price of an identical trumpet to mine at the show. I paid $450 which for me was ridiculous at the time. It's a great trumpet but not that much better than my $200 trumpets. $1200 no way!  At least I get to keep the call though. That TSS is gone with the wind. It sure does shoot good though.


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[davisd9]

You know we are all complaining about the prices of TSS and most of us don't have a problem paying for calls that have gone up in price .. calls that used to cost 100 dollars for example now cost 500 pus to a 1000 dollars... I think you know what calls i'm talking about.. LOL

So I'm not going to let the price of TSS make me go back to carrying my 12 gauge for NOW ... YOU never know what the future may hold... IMO

I have issue with a lot of the call prices, probably more that than the TSS. The rising cost of TSS makes sense, $200 pot calls do not.


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I was completely shocked at the price of an identical trumpet to mine at the show. I paid $450 which for me was ridiculous at the time. It's a great trumpet but not that much better than my $200 trumpets. $1200 no way!  At least I get to keep the call though. That TSS is gone with the wind. It sure does shoot good though.


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It is a delicate balance. I understand many call maker prospectives and why they are raising their pricing. A call maker sells a trumpet to a guy for $300 and as soon as he gets it he flips it for $500-1000, who should be making money off the call? The call maker.

I also see guys just stepping into building asking $300-500 for a call with no reputation and most likely, a trumpet anyway, cannot even run the call. 

Anyway, it's a slippery slope and I will continue buying calls from the makers I have established relationships with and if their call is above my budget I hope to continue speaking on the phone and hope they at least share the photos of their builds.


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[bwhana]

I have been buying after season close outs for years I'm sitting at my 177 tss rounds split between 20/28/410. I guess I'm good until I retire and start hunting all the states!

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