Black hills draw

[arkrem870]

Early....i put in for draws and travel farther to the open stuff if I don't draw. Then on to additional states pending draw results and open seasons the rest of the year. I still kill the same amount just find myself traveling farther to do so.  Lower limits. Non resident restrictions. Draws. Different openers. Frankly it's a major inconvenience. The whole country is moving toward a draw and more restrictive non resident regs. Been interesting to watch the evolution in the last 20 years. What we used to have and what we now have. The next 20 will be painful I expect for the traveling turkey hunter.

Loose lips sink ships. Believe it

[arkrem870]

Do different....man social media is wrecking hunting. Arkansas duck hunting is absolutely crazy now and the cameras are a major problem.

It's the same with turkey hunting. Pimping a public resource for profit is the lowest form of hunter. Yet fools celebrate these guys because they simply don't know any better. I have no love for any of them. The pennies they've made has been paid 1000 times in lost opportunity for the public Hunter.  And it's only getting started. Like and subscribe to your own demise

[Gooserbat]

Do different....man social media is wrecking hunting. Arkansas duck hunting is absolutely crazy now and the cameras are a major problem.

It's the same with turkey hunting. Pimping a public resource for profit is the lowest form of hunter. Yet fools celebrate these guys because they simply don't know any better. I have no love for any of them. The pennies they've made has been paid 1000 times in lost opportunity for the public Hunter.  And it's only getting started. Like and subscribe to your own demise

It would be great if making a profit from a public resource was ended.  Film and sell hunts on private all you want but what is done is done. 

[arkrem870]

Do different....man social media is wrecking hunting. Arkansas duck hunting is absolutely crazy now and the cameras are a major problem.

It's the same with turkey hunting. Pimping a public resource for profit is the lowest form of hunter. Yet fools celebrate these guys because they simply don't know any better. I have no love for any of them. The pennies they've made has been paid 1000 times in lost opportunity for the public Hunter.  And it's only getting started. Like and subscribe to your own demise

It would be great if making a profit from a public resource was ended.  Film and sell hunts on private all you want but what is done is done. 

You are correct. What's done is done. Now we reap what was sown.

[eggshell]

I believe some states it is against the law to guide/ charge on public lands, but I didn't look it up. I wonder if states couldn't already extend this to publishing hunts on public land. They can say youtube is free, but they are monetized and their principle goal is to make money. I do think it's an issue that needs addressed. Every sportsman that buys a license is subsidizing these profiteers. That is  not what public land management should be. I worked a career for my state Wildlife agency and I never lost sight of who's money paid my salary and run my facility. I assure you I did not like it when the cameras showed up and someone was making money off my time and work. The administrators would often tells us to give them access and cooperate to help increase public awareness of how their Natural resources were managed, but modern technology has changed that and now it's just money grubbing.

[nativeks]

I remember the demise of the NWR I learned to hunt turkeys on. The NWTF filmed a video of the governor shooting a turkey on it. The place used to be loaded with turkeys. Now it is loaded with people, and the warden I talked to said he heard 1 turkey gobble on the opener. Really sad to watch it happen.

[eggshell]

Let's see I think I read somewhere that the Love of Money is the root of all evil

1 Timothy 6:10  NIV For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

[tbowers]

I applied, will be interesting if they share how many applicants there are. Good move overall it seems to limit NR. I'd agree that YT has drawn a lot of attention to the area. I've hunted there every year since 2020, Ive been on birds every single year. Dont always kill one but it not like its complete desolation or hunters are at every pull off. Guys that feel thats the case will stay home, and its a net benefit to those that choose to go.

[deerhunt1988]

I applied, will be interesting if they share how many applicants there are. 

South Dakota is good with posting draw stats. It should up on the following page within a few weeks of the draw completion.

https://license.gooutdoorssouthdakota.com/License/DrawStatistics

[NYturkey]

The results will be available the 18th of this month according to their website.


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[deerhunt1988]

2683 folks applied for the 2225 tags. So 83% draw odds. Odds will decrease next year like every other turkey draw in this day and age.

[silent tom]

Well. The results are out.

Thank you to those who contributed on turning roughly a million acres of public ground to a draw.

To all the guys whose youtube videos are linked- you guys have done more to hurt the sport of turkey hunting than you could ever imagine and are detrimental to the sport. Purely fueled by selfish desires.

[Zach.Hannigan]

I wonder how many of those folks were planning to hunt WY as well and how many will still make the trip if they didn't draw for SD making it a one state trip. Could always jump up to MT to make it a two state trip but not as convenient as the 1 hour drive to WY.

[Dtrkyman]

A particular state I hunt each spring is an absolute rodeo on the opener, I really don't think it has anything to do with social media, most folks are locals.

Concentrated turkeys where a lot of people know they are is a problem!

However I have found a few off the beaten path spots and have been able to kill birds, but if you go to the obvious spots it just isn't any fun!  More issues with slob hunters than I have ever seen, unfortunately it is becoming the norm in most places.

[silent tom]

A particular state I hunt each spring is an absolute rodeo on the opener, I really don't think it has anything to do with social media, most folks are locals.

Concentrated turkeys where a lot of people know they are is a problem!

However I have found a few off the beaten path spots and have been able to kill birds, but if you go to the obvious spots it just isn't any fun!  More issues with slob hunters than I have ever seen, unfortunately it is becoming the norm in most places.

Go back and review the number of tags sold then look at the dates of the videos that are posted in this thread.

Youtubers/Social media attention seekers are not solely to blame, but DO bear the biggest burden of what has happened in the last 8 years or so. Other than to personally profit, there is no reason to name states. Much less the spots that have been blatantly given up.
All for what? So a handful of guys can get "likes". Get a job like the rest of us.
I'll hunt a minimum of a dozen states this year and no one outside of close friends will know a thing. If you are hunting for the right reasons, it's not necessary to broadcast your every move for attention.