Be a responsible consumer and Mississippi

[Jbird22]

I like the idea of the reciprocity.  The state you reside dictates the cost you pay for a NR license and when you can start in comparison to the residents. 

If your state jacks up the price for a NR license and holds NR out for 2 weeks, you also feel that when you hunt in the reciprocity state. 

Ok, since we're advocating for reciprocity here..if you come from a state with a 1 or 2 bird limit, then that's all you get when you come to MS. I bet that just slammed the brakes on that now didn't it. The Ark folks come here and get 3 cheaper than I can get 1 for in their state. So YES, reciprocity for ALL on ALL accounts!

[ruination]

Reciprocity for all.  Anything else is hypocritical.  Don't want to see any resident of these non-res restricting states in a Florida area such as Big Cypress or any of Florida's three NATIONAL Forest until the season is two weeks old.  As my mother always said "what's good for the goose is good for the gander".  I can't hunt your nationally owned land for the first two weeks you don't hunt mine for an equal period. 

Again, when is the last time you hunted MS?

There's a reason he's dodged that question twice jbird!

Yes there is a reason because it means nothing in this discussion.  If you think it does you are missing the whole point.You have a problem with reciprocity ?

Wonder how many of these boys go to Florida and then north to extend their seasons.


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Never hunted Florida a day in my life.

And....this was a two part statement lol.

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Ok..AND I've never hunted in another state after season was closed in my own. Did I miss anything else or are you just out of bullets now? Lol

But you have hunted other states.

There's no real bullets.  And there's more than one person in this thread.

For example, I have zero desire to hunt MS.  But even I can recognize shitty money grabs.





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[Jbird22]

Reciprocity for all.  Anything else is hypocritical.  Don't want to see any resident of these non-res restricting states in a Florida area such as Big Cypress or any of Florida's three NATIONAL Forest until the season is two weeks old.  As my mother always said "what's good for the goose is good for the gander".  I can't hunt your nationally owned land for the first two weeks you don't hunt mine for an equal period. 

Again, when is the last time you hunted MS?

There's a reason he's dodged that question twice jbird!

Yes there is a reason because it means nothing in this discussion.  If you think it does you are missing the whole point.You have a problem with reciprocity ?

Wonder how many of these boys go to Florida and then north to extend their seasons.


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Never hunted Florida a day in my life.

And....this was a two part statement lol.

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Ok..AND I've never hunted in another state after season was closed in my own. Did I miss anything else or are you just out of bullets now? Lol

But you have hunted other states.

There's no real bullets.  And there's more than one person in this thread.

For example, I have zero desire to hunt MS.  But even I can recognize shitty money grabs.





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Yes, but you plainly said starting early and extending. I've never done either.

Again, come hunt here and you'll probably understand that something HAS to be done. The reports I've heard from a certain NF here over opening weekend were insane.

[Jbird22]

Reciprocity. A big word that says it all. The day will come when all the non-res discrimination will prove fruitless.  Then shorter seasons and reduced bag limits will be needed but the resident whiners will fight that tooth and nail.  Selfish and hypocritical.   

Read reply #82 please...people want to use words like reciprocity when it benefits them for their personal cherry-picked angles. When other unintended angles of reciprocity are presented, the argument tends to fade.

Is it reciprocal that people from other states can come to MS and kill more here than I can in their states? Or should your great debate of reciprocity only apply to license costs?

[ruination]

Sure.

Put your opener in line with or slightly after others.  That has been shown to be good for the turkeys anyways.

Reduce NR bag limits.

Cut down on permits.

But there absolutely should be reciprocity.  You should pay $500 wherever you go.  Specially since your pushing hunters to other states.

[arkrem870]

If you would just ADAPT .....

[CALLM2U]

.... Selfish and hypocritical.

Agreed.  They will say it's about the bird, but they really prefer 20,000 people to kill 10,000 birds rather than 40,000 people kill 10,000 birds.  Because that would mean less for them and more for others.  We can't have that....

[Jbird22]

Sure.

Put your opener in line with or slightly after others.  That has been shown to be good for the turkeys anyways.

Reduce NR bag limits.

Cut down on permits.

But there absolutely should be reciprocity.  You should pay $500 wherever you go.  Specially since your pushing hunters to other states.

Neighboring states who pushed their openers back is what pushed more hunters here. Kudos to MS for not following suit so far.

Pretty sure it'd cost me $500 to go to Ark and kill 1 bird. So they'd be getting a bargain to pay $500 for 3 here, right?

I'm done replying to folks who have NO experience with hunting MS? Come hunt here next year and see for yourself is all I can say.

[ruination]

Sure.

Put your opener in line with or slightly after others.  That has been shown to be good for the turkeys anyways.

Reduce NR bag limits.

Cut down on permits.

But there absolutely should be reciprocity.  You should pay $500 wherever you go.  Specially since your pushing hunters to other states.

Neighboring states who pushed their openers back is what pushed more hunters here. Kudos to MS for not following suit so far.

I'm done replying to folks who have NO experience with hunting MS? Come hunt here next year and see for yourself is all I can say.

Yep.  And instead of pushing yours back you're making a money grab.

People are still going to pay it.  But hey, at least you guys will have money to...do something totally unrelated to turkeys with.

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[Howie g]

OPINIONS,,,  the old saying , there like ———— , everybody's got one ,comes to mind . 

[Coldbeer]

Reciprocity? Should Mississippi only allow Wisconsin residents to 7 days worth of hunting and a draw?

Iowa residents to their portion of a 252 total non resident tags drawn per 7 day season?

Or Illinois residents to draw only, and 1 bird?

Indiana residents to 1 bird?

Arkansas to 1 bird and 2 weeks to hunt?

Missouri to 2, and only one in the first week so they have to come twice to fill them both?

Kansas to a draw?

Mississippi's season is wide open for 30 days and 3 turkeys to everyone in the country. During the draw, it's what, one of 2 states that are open? Again, let them drop it back to April first, instead of a 2 week draw, then no one can hunt in Ms in March.  What good does that do for anyone? I do not see how Mississippi is the enemy here.

[ruination]

Reciprocity? Should Mississippi only allow Wisconsin residents to 7 days worth of hunting and a draw?

Iowa residents to their portion of a 252 total non resident tags drawn per 7 day season?

Or Illinois residents to draw only, and 1 bird?

Indiana residents to 1 bird?

Arkansas to 1 bird and 2 weeks to hunt?

Missouri to 2, and only one in the first week so they have to come twice to fill them both?

Kansas to a draw?

Mississippi's season is wide open for 30 days and 3 turkeys to everyone in the country. During the draw, it's what, one of 2 states that are open? Again, let them drop it back to April first, instead of a 2 week draw, then no one can hunt in Ms in March.  What good does that do for anyone? I do not see how Mississippi is the enemy here.

This really isn't a hard concept.  Youyr comparing things done in the name of hunting quality and conservation, a lot of which residents themselves have to abide by, to something done to make money.

[sasquatch1]

Reciprocity for all.  Anything else is hypocritical.  Don't want to see any resident of these non-res restricting states in a Florida area such as Big Cypress or any of Florida's three NATIONAL Forest until the season is two weeks old.  As my mother always said "what's good for the goose is good for the gander".  I can't hunt your nationally owned land for the first two weeks you don't hunt mine for an equal period. 

Again, when is the last time you hunted MS?

There's a reason he's dodged that question twice jbird!

Yes there is a reason because it means nothing in this discussion.  If you think it does you are missing the whole point.You have a problem with reciprocity ?

Wonder how many of these boys go to Florida and then north to extend their seasons.


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Never hunted Florida a day in my life.

And....this was a two part statement lol.

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Ok..AND I've never hunted in another state after season was closed in my own. Did I miss anything else or are you just out of bullets now? Lol

But you have hunted other states.

There's no real bullets.  And there's more than one person in this thread.

For example, I have zero desire to hunt MS.  But even I can recognize shitty money grabs.





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Yes, but you plainly said starting early and extending. I've never done either.

Again, come hunt here and you'll probably understand that something HAS to be done. The reports I've heard from a certain NF here over opening weekend were insane.

I've been a life time NF non resident hunter. Do I like the new draw? Hell no especially since I didn't draw and see the odds just getting worse.

Do I think a move was needed? Yes, I just don't know which move would be best. One move that would have been nice is to ban videoing for profit on public lands. Really kick the teeth in on the ones that made this become a mess so fast.

Now, on to the "claims to unreal crowds". Most of it is from big cry babies. I've seen the crowds, been part of the crowds, and hunted with the crowds for years in some of the heaviest hunted areas. I've likely hunted more of the NF as a NR than you have as a resident. So I'm not speaking on "what I have heard".

To make that claim now with the limited numbers in the draw makes it seem even more like just cry babies being babies. I've never struggled to find a place to hunt in peace or to kill my birds. I rarely ever had to even hunt into April.

Alabama and such pushing seasons back def did not help the Ms situation. I do think if just a few states opened together it would accomplish the same thing pressure wise as the draw did, without needing a draw but I do think it's good MS didn't push theirs back and penalize the residents. The WORST thing to do is have different seasons public/private. WTF Bama? Georgia???


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[Jbird22]

Reciprocity? Should Mississippi only allow Wisconsin residents to 7 days worth of hunting and a draw?

Iowa residents to their portion of a 252 total non resident tags drawn per 7 day season?

Or Illinois residents to draw only, and 1 bird?

Indiana residents to 1 bird?

Arkansas to 1 bird and 2 weeks to hunt?

Missouri to 2, and only one in the first week so they have to come twice to fill them both?

Kansas to a draw?

Mississippi's season is wide open for 30 days and 3 turkeys to everyone in the country. During the draw, it's what, one of 2 states that are open? Again, let them drop it back to April first, instead of a 2 week draw, then no one can hunt in Ms in March.  What good does that do for anyone? I do not see how Mississippi is the enemy here.

Exactly my point! People love throwing around words like reciprocity until they realize what true reciprocity means. I'm glad you fully understand the full version as I do.

[TauntoHawk]

Nearly all of us here like turkey hunting, and id wager most also don't like crowds.

I don't know what the answer is because I see a scary trend in restricted access and pricing hunters out of opportunity but there's also a massive rise in demand on a finite resource.

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