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Would you shoot if you didn't call him in?

Started by mcw3734, March 03, 2024, 10:37:37 AM

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Zobo

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Quote from: Greg Massey on March 03, 2024, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Dougas on March 03, 2024, 03:36:48 PM
I would shoot one I didn't call in, because I rarely use a call. I spot and stalk or set up an ambush. I have as much fun doing it that way as I have when calling. Each has its own challenges and rewards.

Nothing wrong with that tactic, for myself i just enjoy my calls / calling and the interaction with the gobblers...  I like to convince him to look for me...


There iIS something wrong with that tactic, it's called safety
Stand still, and consider the wonderous works of God  Job:37:14

Zobo

Quote from: Dtrkyman on March 03, 2024, 01:43:27 PM
Not legal to shoot a bird you didn't call in?  I find that difficult to believe and waaay more difficult to enforce, basically impossible.


Enforceability is irrelevant
Stand still, and consider the wonderous works of God  Job:37:14

WV Flopper

This was a picture of the smell of sweet success, picture was taking at 640 AM.

Night prior the wind picked up to 40 MPH, as I lay in my motel room I mentally went through my hunting area for tomorrow.

If you notice the road behind me, that's what I walked in on. In front of me is a 50 year old high wall, the high wall makes a big U. A man made wind break.

I was standing a few feet from where this picture was taken when I could start to see turkeys on the roost 35 yards in front of me in the darkness. I slowly managed to lay down and crawl a copy feet to the base of a tree.

A Tom started gobbling what sounded like two hundred yards away, could have been less but the wind was ripping!

After forever those hens flew down, the Tom stopped gobbling and the hens scratched there way onto the side of the highway working right around it to me. Soon, there is the Tom strutting behind them. When he was at 30 yards I shot him.

I had, in the 40 or so minutes, slide a call in my mouth but never once did it break silence. Why would it? The only thing I could have done was screw it up, there could not have been an improvement to that hunt.

In this hunt, my ego did not tell me I had to call em up!

The hens on the roost were swaying at what I figured was at least 12' from side to side. I would have been a sick turkey from setting there all night!

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Zobo

Quote from: Farmboy27 on March 03, 2024, 04:04:40 PM
I'm definitely killing him!  I love hunting more than anything else I do. But if I wasn't doing it to kill, I'd carry a camera instead of a gun!!  Most on here wouldn't think twice about killing a buck that they happened onto on the way to their stand. Or a coyote that came strolling past. To say that one that isn't called in isn't earned is just silly. When do you consider it "earned"?  How about a love sick 2 year old that runs straight into the first set of yelps?  Didn't do much to "earn" that one. How about when one flys down and lands 30 yards away after you only made one call? Didn't do much to "earn" him either. Hunting is different for everyone and everyone has his or her own preferences and standards. I personally don't understand the concept of "earned" when it comes to hunting. If I get an easy opportunity, I'm taking it!  Passing on a lucky chance is like passing on a lottery ticket you just won on!  I mean heck, you should. You really didn't "earn" it!!


Hey Farmboy, this isn't deer hunting
Stand still, and consider the wonderous works of God  Job:37:14

Zobo

Quote from: WV Flopper on March 03, 2024, 05:04:42 PM
This was a picture of the smell of sweet success, picture was taking at 640 AM.

Night prior the wind picked up to 40 MPH, as I lay in my motel room I mentally went through my hunting area for tomorrow.

If you notice the road behind me, that's what I walked in on. In front of me is a 50 year old high wall, the high wall makes a big U. A man made wind break.

I was standing a few feet from where this picture was taken when I could start to see turkeys on the roost 35 yards in front of me in the darkness. I slowly managed to lay down and crawl a copy feet to the base of a tree.

A Tom started gobbling what sounded like two hundred yards away, could have been less but the wind was ripping!

After forever those hens flew down, the Tom stopped gobbling and the hens scratched there way onto the side of the highway working right around it to me. Soon, there is the Tom strutting behind them. When he was at 30 yards I shot him.

I had, in the 40 or so minutes, slide a call in my mouth but never once did it break silence. Why would it? The only thing I could have done was screw it up, there could not have been an improvement to that hunt.

In this hunt, my ego did not tell me I had to call em up!

The hens on the roost were swaying at what I figured was at least 12' from side to side. I would have been a sick turkey from setting there all night!

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Perfectly fine , you set up. Has nothing to do with actual calling. It's about stalking and reaping
Stand still, and consider the wonderous works of God  Job:37:14

Dtrkyman

So where is it illegal to kill a turkey you don't call in?

Enforceability is relevant, they tend to not make too many non enforceable laws.

zelmo1

As above, " to each their own". I guess it would be a situational call. If I'm turkey hunting, 50/50. If someone else is calling it, I'm out of there. Z

crow

I've slipped along a ridge and had gobblers walk up gobbling and looking.
So did they come as a late response to where you were set up and calling 15 minutes earlier and 200yds back, or did they think your noise walking in the leaves was a hen feeding along.

If it was the walking/leaf noise option,
and scratching in the leaves when set up to imitate a feeding hen is an acceptable calling technique. Then by that precedent, I submit that calling one in by walking in the leaves should also be acceptable.

But keep in mind I was pre-med not pre-law.

Zobo

Quote from: Dougas on March 03, 2024, 03:36:48 PM
I would shoot one I didn't call in, because I rarely use a call. I spot and stalk or set up an ambush. I have as much fun doing it that way as I have when calling. Each has its own challenges and rewards.


It's not about YOUR challenge and reward. It's about the safety of OTHERS. Stalking is nothing to be proud of, and yes it's illegal in some states.
Stand still, and consider the wonderous works of God  Job:37:14

kennedyh1990

You earn every one of them....


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Farmboy27

Quote from: Zobo on March 03, 2024, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: Farmboy27 on March 03, 2024, 04:04:40 PM
I'm definitely killing him!  I love hunting more than anything else I do. But if I wasn't doing it to kill, I'd carry a camera instead of a gun!!  Most on here wouldn't think twice about killing a buck that they happened onto on the way to their stand. Or a coyote that came strolling past. To say that one that isn't called in isn't earned is just silly. When do you consider it "earned"?  How about a love sick 2 year old that runs straight into the first set of yelps?  Didn't do much to "earn" that one. How about when one flys down and lands 30 yards away after you only made one call? Didn't do much to "earn" him either. Hunting is different for everyone and everyone has his or her own preferences and standards. I personally don't understand the concept of "earned" when it comes to hunting. If I get an easy opportunity, I'm taking it!  Passing on a lucky chance is like passing on a lottery ticket you just won on!  I mean heck, you should. You really didn't "earn" it!!


Hey Farmboy, this isn't deer hunting


Hey zobo, why the heck do you feel turkeys should be different? 

Yoder409

Quote from: Dtrkyman on March 03, 2024, 01:43:27 PM
Not legal to shoot a bird you didn't call in?  I find that difficult to believe and waaay more difficult to enforce, basically impossible.

Yessir.

Believe what you like.  Been this way since I started in 1979-80.

I reckon a whole lotta laws.......game or otherwise......are difficult to enforce.  That's where the nature of honesty and morality either shines in an individual......or it does not.

How is it they say ??  Some thing like "Character is what you do when no one is looking" ??

PA elitist since 1979

The good Lord ain't made a gobbler I can't kill.  I just gotta be there at the right time.....  on the day he wants to die.

Brian Fahs

We all frequent old gobbler to share our love of the wild turkey and hunting them.

That being said, I think we all could use more time in the woods and less time on the keyboards.

Zobo

#43
Quote from: joey46 on March 03, 2024, 06:34:27 PM
Another joke thread.  Yes said "Horse Pucky" since this forum wouldn't allow Horse Shxx.  Maybe a few of you could start an "Elitist Section".   Maybe one state could be designated for cool guys only. No gps, no OnX, no decoys, no cell phones, no cameras, no crops of any kind, no social media allowed, if caught watching THP it's a permanent ban to hunt only Alaska for longbeards. Stalking game has been done since the cavemen.  It will continue as long as hunting is permitted. Get over it

.SAFETY - lol, sounds like the 2nd amendment attacker's - if it only saved one life.  Please stay home if the woods gives you the vapors.


Ok first, it's not a joke, sorta.
And second, you have an unusual infatuation it seems with THP. Especially for a gentleman of your age, although I will admit I have no idea how old you are, but it ain't young.
I will admit you are kinda cool because you have a unique take. However, your logic is subjective. You believe in what's right for you. I'm thinking more broadly.
Stand still, and consider the wonderous works of God  Job:37:14

Yoder409

PA elitist since 1979

The good Lord ain't made a gobbler I can't kill.  I just gotta be there at the right time.....  on the day he wants to die.