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Interesting article from Alabama

Started by topnotch, July 01, 2023, 10:48:04 PM

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GobbleNut

Simply stated formula for wild turkey management:  IHN+IH+DTP=EBP
Increasing Hunter Numbers + Increasing Harvest + Declining Turkey Population = Eventual Big Problem

J-Shaped

Quoted from the article:

Meanwhile, Mitchell thinks social media does have one upside for Alabama's Eastern wild turkey.

"Social media has drawn more people into turkey hunting," Mitchell said. "I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. I think a lot of it has called attention to the plight of turkeys and the perceived turkey decline. I think or hope people have gained education through social media more than anything."


So in the sections above this quote, the article references how advancements in technology and techniques are making hunters more effective at killing turkeys (no argument there - been saying this for years). Yet they go on to say social media is an upside? And people are gaining education via social media?

Sorry, but that made me laugh out loud. I'd wager that most new hunters who come to turkey hunting via social media influence 1)Are doing it because they think it's "cool", 2) aren't joining the sport because they want to be advocates for the plight of turkeys as referenced in the article, and 3) sure as heck aren't being educated on more traditional tactics for hunting turkeys via what they see on social media. A quick search of any social media site is flooded with clowns doing all sorts of shenanigans to kill turkeys, and if that's their basis for joining the sport, well, we're only adding potential turkey killers, not advocates for the bird, to our ranks.

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He is spot on with several comments, and off on a couple (IMO).   The harvest numbers is still a guess at best.   Increase in harvests reported doesn't coincide with the populations increase/decrease.   I talk to numerous non turkey hunters often, and they all say the same thing, which is there aren't near the turkeys as there used to be.  I put more faith in peoples hands on observations than I do a phone in tag system. 
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FL-Boss

We continue to evolve with better tech each year and the turkeys don't. That's an issue... when does it end?  State agencies should "even the playing field" a little more. Make it a little more of a challenge for us. Ban cell cameras during the season, ban decoys for the first half of the season, and ban any shell with greater than 1.75oz payload. Just a few ideas off the top of my head...
Or course other things on the management side need to be done, like no hens ever. And does any state really need more than a 2 bird limit right now?

hawkeye1958

Quote from: FL-Boss on July 02, 2023, 04:35:46 PM

Or course other things on the management side need to be done, like no hens ever. And does any state really need more than a 2 bird limit right now?

I agree