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herters tss

Started by captfire, April 23, 2023, 12:24:56 PM

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 anyone tried herter's tss shells . i seen them at cabela's . all i seen some fed.tss in 2 3/4 i did;nt know they made fed.tss in 23/4.

Marc

Quote from: captfire on April 23, 2023, 12:24:56 PM
anyone tried herter's tss shells . i seen them at cabela's . all i seen some fed.tss in 2 3/4 i did;nt know they made fed.tss in 23/4.

Actually, it makes no sense to me to make a 3" TSS shell.  It is my understanding that TSS takes up a lot less room than lead, and often they are putting spacers in the casing to take up space...

Why not make it simple, and put the same load in a 2 3/4" shell with no spacers?

Boss makes a 3" 2 oz 20 gauge load...  I cannot imagine the necessity of such a load, and it is certainly not going to be "child-friendly," or even adult friendly (at least for this adult).

I think the main reason that most TSS loads are probably 3'' is cause that is what hunters want and think is necessary to kill a bird.  It is my impression that many of the 3" TSS loads would probably do just fine in a 2 3/4" hull, but it would not "market" well...  I do not load, and could be wrong though.
Did I do that?

Fly fishermen are born honest, but they get over it.

Dtrkyman

Agree with Marc, if I shot 12ga I would load an 1 5/8th oz load.

Herters has shot quite well on a youtube channel.

krm944

Quote from: Marc on April 23, 2023, 12:48:23 PM
Quote from: captfire on April 23, 2023, 12:24:56 PM
anyone tried herter's tss shells . i seen them at cabela's . all i seen some fed.tss in 2 3/4 i did;nt know they made fed.tss in 23/4.

Actually, it makes no sense to me to make a 3" TSS shell.  It is my understanding that TSS takes up a lot less room than lead, and often they are putting spacers in the casing to take up space...

Why not make it simple, and put the same load in a 2 3/4" shell with no spacers?

Boss makes a 3" 2 oz 20 gauge load...  I cannot imagine the necessity of such a load, and it is certainly not going to be "child-friendly," or even adult friendly (at least for this adult).

I think the main reason that most TSS loads are probably 3'' is cause that is what hunters want and think is necessary to kill a bird.  It is my impression that many of the 3" TSS loads would probably do just fine in a 2 3/4" hull, but it would not "market" well...  I do not load, and could be wrong though.
This!

A good topic over a beer is nailing down the perfect payload that kills turkeys but is not excessive.

I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 oz - maybe 1 1/4 oz is lethal, effective and affordable and doesn't have a ton of recoil.

Viper Ammunition loads 1 ounce in the 410 and I'm told many cannot discern any increase in recoil.

I'm seeing remarkable results in the 28 gauge- which ironically has that 1 1/4 oz  (+/- )  sweet spot payload. It has been loaded with up to 1 5/8 which ironically is the same payload as the 20 gauge.

If we use a lead Turkey load comparison, most lead Turkey loads in the 20 gauge are 1 1/4 ounce.

With the lightweight single shots I am surprised ammo makers haven't focused on a  2 3/4" 20 gauge reduced recoil load- maybe 1 1/8 or 1 1/4 ounce?

I think all of the commercial ammo makers Fed/Herter's Remington are loading 3" shells.

The Rossi Tuffy 20 is a gun that comes to mind. Most owners love the gun, it patterns extremely well- but recoil!!!


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