Out Of State Regs-1 Bird

[Hook hanger]

Honestly I really enjoy the states that allows you to shoot 5+ a year.

[arkrem870]

I see people on here suggesting stop hunting for at least two years, ban the "cigar smokers", etc. Sorry, but these ideas sound crazy to me. I don't know about other people, but I just enjoy being outdoors in an area that has gobbling turkeys, with just a chance to tag one. To hang it up for two years is not  an option for me. Instead of banning these guys or that, I suggest we spend our time/resources finding out why our recruitment/nesting success is down so much. Then figure out from a scientific standpoint how to improve these areas.

I have chosen a profession that requires me to be on call 24/7, to leave I have to make special arrangements for someone to cover for me. If it were not for the "cigar smokers" I'd never get to see an Osceola come wading through water in Osceola country, or dozens of other interesting locales that I know I'll never get to visit first hand.

If it weren't for the cigar smoker and other attention hounds we likely wouldn't be having this conversation at all.......

[St. Augustine Strutter]

I see people on here suggesting stop hunting for at least two years, ban the "cigar smokers", etc. Sorry, but these ideas sound crazy to me. I don't know about other people, but I just enjoy being outdoors in an area that has gobbling turkeys, with just a chance to tag one. To hang it up for two years is not  an option for me. Instead of banning these guys or that, I suggest we spend our time/resources finding out why our recruitment/nesting success is down so much. Then figure out from a scientific standpoint how to improve these areas.

I have chosen a profession that requires me to be on call 24/7, to leave I have to make special arrangements for someone to cover for me. If it were not for the "cigar smokers" I'd never get to see an Osceola come wading through water in Osceola country, or dozens of other interesting locales that I know I'll never get to visit first hand.

If it weren't for the cigar smoker and other attention hounds we likely wouldn't be having this conversation at all.......

BINGO. It's amazing how some have trouble correlating the two.

[ElkTurkMan]

I am good with it. My favorite state to hunt just allows one bird per non resident and it always been fun. Anything that will help the birds rebound I am in favor off.

[West Augusta]

I call "the cigar smoker" a friend.  I've hunted with him.  He's much better than what shows on YouTube.
Hope he considers me a friend also.   He's just a guy trying to make a living and most of us are jealous that we didn't come up with the idea and have the guts to quit their job and go turkey hunting for a living. I know that I am.  There are several out there.  I know at least 3.  He and his kind aren't the reason.  I don't blame anyone for loving the sound of a spring gobble.  And if they bring that joy to a new hunter, then all the better.   Knight and Hale,  Will Primos and others got us fired up about turkey hunting. You don't blame them.   Don't blame "the cigar smoker". 

[quavers59]

  But how would you get all 49 States to agree to this at the same time?
    Probably  areas absolutely  Hammered  by out of Staters who live a Stones Throw from a Neighboring  State would like this new Regulation.
   South New Jersey comes to mind with half of Pennsylvania  Turkey Hunters  looking to Grab those few weekly Permits in their Lottery System. 
    In my area of New York,I see half of New Jersey's Turkey Hunters parked in New York. Meanwhile,I see very few New Yorkers hunting in New Jersey. Go Figure
 

[Shiloh]

This turkey hunting thing is a fad that won't last.  It's kind of like discussing how few turkeys there are these days on OG.  Be careful what you change because of a fad.  There's already talk around Wisconsin numbers showing that maybe turkeys are not gonna disappear from the landscape and maybe the numbers were skewed from Covid.  Just doing something won't fix a problem. Especially if there might not have been a problem to begin with.  A few good hatches and we are all singing and dancing in the streets and back to arguing about shots over 40 yards?

[arkrem870]

I hope your right. Unfortunately arkansas duck hunting underwent a similar public green timber hunting fad some years back. Resulting in non resident draws and closed /rest days on many public spots to reduce the increased pressure. Social media hunters made sleeping at the boat ramps in line a fad and now folks start lining up a full week before opening day. Turkey hunting is following the same trajectory. I've lived both extensively and am worried for the future of turkey hunting. Turkeys are precious and shouldnt be exploited on public lands for profit.

[Shiloh]

But what if you go to north or south dakota for ducks?  You won't face the same challenges.  I think the Arkansas duck hunting thing is mainly because it's Arkansas and these kids think that you have to go there and endure that misery to earn your SnapTok badge.  If you wanna turkey hunt there are great places all over this country that aren't that crowded.  I just don't see the issues that everyone is all bent over..........

[West Augusta]

But what if you go to north or south dakota for ducks?  You won't face the same challenges.  I think the Arkansas duck hunting thing is mainly because it's Arkansas and these kids think that you have to go there and endure that misery to earn your SnapTok badge.  If you wanna turkey hunt there are great places all over this country that aren't that crowded.  I just don't see the issues that everyone is all bent over..........

I agree Shioh.  I have or had 3 primo turkey gun bring hunting spots.   One I lost due to someone buying the property.   The other two I was either the only one allowed to hunt there or was with the property owner.   Blessed to be sure.   No "YouTuber" has ever set foot on either property.   All three typically held up to five adult gobblers per year.   This year? Nada.  Not one gobbler on any property.  The areas held many jakes which gives me hope for next year and a few very old gobblers.    Guess we had a few bad hatches.  I'm not blaming "YouTubers".  I had to step up my game to harvest the bird.   Go deeper,  hunt more days,  learn new calls,   be patient.  Yes,  I'm retired and can hunt weekdays but I don't blame anyone for the lack of gobblers.

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[Paulmyr]

But what if you go to north or south dakota for ducks?  You won't face the same challenges.  I think the Arkansas duck hunting thing is mainly because it's Arkansas and these kids think that you have to go there and endure that misery to earn your SnapTok badge.  If you wanna turkey hunt there are great places all over this country that aren't that crowded.  I just don't see the issues that everyone is all bent over..........

Arkansas green timber duck hunting is a different animal than prairie ducks of the Dakota's. Hunting wise and crowd wise. Most people head to Arkansas for the experience. Whether it's good or bad is in the eye of the beholder.

[arkrem870]

I'm bent because Mississippi now has a non resident drawing to hunt public land, alabama now has a drastically late opening and lower limit on public land to curb non resident use, South Carolina has done the same, Georgia has done the same, Oklahoma has done the same, Tennessee has done the same,  etc. etc. Public land hunters are paying 1000x the amount of money these YouTubers have made in lost hunting opportunity. Sure, I can drive 12+ hours and get to other less crowded locations.....I've been extensively traveling for nearly 20 years now and know all about it. Just hate to lose all my close public land options to regulation because a few people had to have their 10 minutes and a few dollars.   

[TurkeyReaper69]

I am good with it. My favorite state to hunt just allows one bird per non resident and it always been fun. Anything that will help the birds rebound I am in favor off.

Gonna go out on a limb here and assume you are speaking of Iowa. IMO its comparing apples to oranges to compare Iowa to any other state.

[Shiloh]

Arkrem.......I completely and fully understand your gripe and this is in no way directed at you, but ALL of mississippi is glad that there is now some reprieve from the Arkansas hunters.  Of the hundreds of complaints that I have heard from public land over the last 35 years about 90% of them have been directed at Arkansas hunters.  Now I am sure the duck hunters in Arkansas could have the same complaints about MS duck hunters, but I don't plan to fight the duck battle.

[arkrem870]

That's fine.....but doesn't change what's happened around the country to public land hunters and what's yet to come. A handful of guys and cameras have turned public turkey hunting upside down. Nobody else thought to do it before because it's no efficient way to make any kind of money and frankly it's no kind of  life.  Selling merchandise is the only money in it. With rising fuel prices and higher license prices it'll be thinner margins.