This is Why You Remove State Names from YouTube Videos!!!!!!!

[deerhunt1988]

The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx

Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.

You truly think that's going to stop them? I don't see any issue with naming the state. However, your efforts are narrowing down to the actual place they're filming and killing birds. They're somewhat being discreet, you're exploiting the land for which they hunt even further.

I see your posts on here name the states for which you have killed birds in.

The kettle is calling the pot black here.


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Yes, because me posting state names and pictures of a dead turkey on this forum have the same outreach as a YouTube video that can get 100k views in under a day.

[aclawrence]

The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx

Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.

People who spend hours trying to figure out where so and so hunted are probably not going to kill any turkeys wherever they go. I would think most guys on here who actually call turkeys in and shoot them are not going to sit behind a keyboard and fool with all this bull crap investigation.  You can usually pull up the information for how many birds are killed on what wma, or county, or zone. All you need to see is that there is a turkey population there. It doesn't make any difference who shot them. I understand that if people know so and so went to such and such spot that it will drive more traffic to that area. For the people who are doing that, you need to change your focus.


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[deerhunt1988]

The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx

Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.

People who spend hours trying to figure out where so and so hunted are probably not going to kill any turkeys wherever they go. I would think most guys on here who actually call turkeys in and shoot them are not going to sit behind a keyboard and fool with all this bull crap investigation.  You can usually pull up the information for how many birds are killed on what wma, or county, or zone. All you need to see is that there is a turkey population there. It doesn't make any difference who shot them. I understand that if people know so and so went to such and such spot that it will drive more traffic to that area. For the people who are doing that, you need to change your focus.


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I personally know a few who will spend their downtime at work tracking them down. And the ones I know, are killers. But they aren't going to go hunt where they've tracked them too, they just enjoy the process and are amazed at all the clues some of the videos leave behind. One Tuber has it figured out, he leaves very little evidence or even false evidence. But the others are bad about leaving bread crumb trails. Which can help with views.

[aclawrence]

Yes some of them have left way too much in past videos. I think they did make more of an effort this last spring after they started getting some blow back.  I think Dave tries hard not to show any clues. But like we were talking about Florida everyone can figure that one out just because of what's available down there.


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[UpperTully]

The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx

Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.

You truly think that's going to stop them? I don't see any issue with naming the state. However, your efforts are narrowing down to the actual place they're filming and killing birds. They're somewhat being discreet, you're exploiting the land for which they hunt even further.

I see your posts on here name the states for which you have killed birds in.

The kettle is calling the pot black here.


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Yes, because me posting state names and pictures of a dead turkey on this forum have the same outreach as a YouTube video that can get 100k views in under a day.

The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx

Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.

You truly think that's going to stop them? I don't see any issue with naming the state. However, your efforts are narrowing down to the actual place they're filming and killing birds. They're somewhat being discreet, you're exploiting the land for which they hunt even further.

I see your posts on here name the states for which you have killed birds in.

The kettle is calling the pot black here.


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Yes, because me posting state names and pictures of a dead turkey on this forum have the same outreach as a YouTube video that can get 100k views in under a day.

That's where you're theory is grossly mistaken. Google search yields just as many people, if not more. This forum as with many others gets a ton of lurkers seeking information. Prove me wrong.






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[deerhunt1988]

That's where you're theory is grossly mistaken. Google search yields just as many people, if not more. This forum as with many others gets a ton of lurkers seeking information. Prove me wrong.

As you wish. Here are OG's top general threads sorted by views. Half or more of the top 10 most viewed threads aren't even turkey hunting related. The top two turkey related ones have 35k and 36k views and both ironically deal with the topic at hand. Hmmm..




Now compare to that to a recent video by THP that got over 100k views in under 24 hours. Or the Kentucky video with nearly a half million views. Or the Florida videos with 100k views. Or the Hawaii video with 100k views.

[UpperTully]

That's where you're theory is grossly mistaken. Google search yields just as many people, if not more. This forum as with many others gets a ton of lurkers seeking information. Prove me wrong.

As you wish. Here are OG's top general threads sorted by views. Half or more of the top 10 most viewed threads aren't even turkey hunting related. The top two turkey related ones have 35k and 36k views and both ironically deal with the topic at hand. Hmmm..




Now compare to that to a recent video by THP that got over 100k views in under 24 hours. Or the Kentucky video with nearly a half million views. Or the Florida videos with 100k views. Or the Hawaii video with 100k views.

Log out, then go in and out of this very thread until your heart desires. You will see the number of views doesn't change with the number of times you viewed this thread while logged out.

I just did it 20 times while logged out, the number of views doesn't reflect those 20 views I made of leaving and entering this thread.

Back to my point, you're cherry picking and being hypocritical. You argue it's detrimental to mention public ground on YouTube but justify your own actions of mentioning public ground in other areas of public viewing online, such as this forum. Additionally, Youtubers mention the state for which they're hunting, you're on here blowing out Kentucky WMAs by posting a source for hunters to find the WMA's they were hunting.

None the less it seems you have a personal vendetta and are being more of a Karen than anything with your agenda. 

[THattaway]

Spread the wealth attitude.... Socialism creeping into hunting.

That is about the stupidest thing I've ever read on here. That's as American as it gets, Public land. Go to a socialist country and do you some public land hunting. Sounds like you'd rather have it all to yourself.

[Crghss]

A bored redneck with a smartphone can find out just about anything they want to know.

Yep, there are no secrets...

[El Pavo Grande]

Spread the wealth attitude.... Socialism creeping into hunting.

That is about the stupidest thing I've ever read on here. That's as American as it gets, Public land. Go to a socialist country and do you some public land hunting. Sounds like you'd rather have it all to yourself.

Not at all.  Trying to preserve what we have.  Trying to help eliminate more reductions in hunter opportunity.  Think outside the box....if you can.  Or you can continue with your head in the sand if you choose.

So, do you agree with sharing specifics on social media?  What are the positives of sharing specific information?

[crow]

A bored redneck with a smartphone can find out just about anything they want to know.

Yep, there are no secrets...

After 4 pages of this I bet you can't guess what I'm thinking now

[TurkeyReaper69]

The link I clicked on only allowed results for the current year, is this right? I know once I log onto my account I can get a history of all my checked birds back to 1990. This is my personal history and not viewable by the public. I like to be able  to do that and review when and where I had success.  I like their telecheck system, I did not like having to drive 20-30 mile to check a bird in some areas. I don't think this will cause near as much a problem as the Youtubers. The closest you can get is a county and that's not the GPS coordinates to a honey hole, so I feel pretty safe. However; the tubers have posted specific information like gates in the background that had visible numbers. That's pretty specific.

Yeah, the link is only good for this year.

But a quick information request could likely get you someone's information for way more years than that. Link below for information request. Information requests are a service all states provide

https://fw.ky.gov/More/Pages/Open-Records-Procedures.aspx

Exactly what does this achieve by digging in the harvest records of these hunters?


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They refuse to quit naming states as they argue it does no harm. So i'm just opening folks eyes up to the power of public information. Information that is out there for free (most of the time) for everyone with only minimal effort required.

Never underestimate the effort people will go through to find out where folks are hunting. There are way more hunters out there than you can imagine that will spend hours and hours tracking down the spots folks are hunting on video.

People who spend hours trying to figure out where so and so hunted are probably not going to kill any turkeys wherever they go. I would think most guys on here who actually call turkeys in and shoot them are not going to sit behind a keyboard and fool with all this bull crap investigation.  You can usually pull up the information for how many birds are killed on what wma, or county, or zone. All you need to see is that there is a turkey population there. It doesn't make any difference who shot them. I understand that if people know so and so went to such and such spot that it will drive more traffic to that area. For the people who are doing that, you need to change your focus.


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I personally know a few who will spend their downtime at work tracking them down. And the ones I know, are killers. But they aren't going to go hunt where they've tracked them too, they just enjoy the process and are amazed at all the clues some of the videos leave behind. One Tuber has it figured out, he leaves very little evidence or even false evidence. But the others are bad about leaving bread crumb trails. Which can help with views.

yup

[El Pavo Grande]

I'll probably drop out of this discussion since it's  become rather repetitive and boring.  Myself and a buddy have long been thinking of a trip out west for a Merriam.  I have the latest National Forest maps, watched multiple you tube videos, and PMed hunters on several forums.  You Tuber's videos are just a part of today's scouting process.  If we don't make the western trip we may run up to Kentucky since  he's never shot an Eastern (south Florida boy - only shot Osceolas).  I have KY experience from having lived there nine years and hunted the state for many years prior.  We'll use the information available from KY's excellent telecheck  system before making any final decision on specific areas.  Computers,  satellite views, GPS units, and mapping apps are much more valuable tools than YouTubers IMO.  Time to enter the 21st century and not worry about who said what on YouTube.  It won't matter anyway.  YouTube and cyber hunters are here to stay.  Use them, work around them, or whine about them - you're choice.

Not being argumentative, but this illustrates what I have said about having apathy.   No denying it's here to stay.  But, is there not a point that some need to be held accountable?  Or do we just shrug our shoulders and accept the fact that the exploitation by a few has created some negatives? Not asking or expecting them to go away.  Just asking to place the resource and other hunters above their own personal gain by changing the content they present.   

[THattaway]

Spread the wealth attitude.... Socialism creeping into hunting.

That is about the stupidest thing I've ever read on here. That's as American as it gets, Public land. Go to a socialist country and do you some public land hunting. Sounds like you'd rather have it all to yourself.

Not at all.  Trying to preserve what we have.  Trying to help eliminate more reductions in hunter opportunity.  Think outside the box....if you can.  Or you can continue with your head in the sand if you choose.

So, do you agree with sharing specifics on social media?  What are the positives of sharing specific information?

Pretty sure where I know your head is buried. Twist it around till you get the answer you want so you can type another essay. Nothing new about folks bragging on kills and others worrying over where they killed it. Besides, it's really none of your business what they do as long as it's legal.

[eggshell]

here's a thought for you....are you 100% sure that all the hunters are being truthful about where they killed the bird when they call it in. I know a few guys who just automatically say The Daniel Boone Forest in "X" county. They do this solely to deceive people away from their areas. When I ran a check station I would bet 30-40% of all hunters lied about where they killed their birds. I know where many of them hunted, as they were local, their standard answer was "State land up on the ridge in X county". Some of these were a whole county away or more. I personally will only use kill numbers to get me close to where I trust turkeys are in adequate numbers. In all honesty, my best hunts have been in fringe areas, not nearly as many birds but way less hunters. However, you gotta do the leg work to find these areas. from what I have seen the video guys don't share these places. I'll give you an example. I had a close friend who hunted several years with Dick Kirby. They hunted a certain spot every year and always killed birds  there. I never once seen him mention it in a video or at a seminar. I know this because I hunted there too. Now there may have been video of those hunts published, but the information was about somewhere else. Just maybe some of this is thought out more than we all think.