Animal Vets--Any Way Around Them?

[g8rvet]

The heart guard medicine they push is ivermectin. You can buy a 250ml pour on bottle of it for around 20$ at your local tractor supply. It's 1ml per 22 pounds of body weight and kills heart worms, plus several gastric worms and several other things, you just pour it down their back


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Make sure you guys know this is NOT the cattle injectable.   Two different concentrations and two different formulas.  The cattle injectable costs more but treats more.  I have never used the pour on. 


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[idgobble]

g8rvet, Thank you for all the great info and, especially, thank you for all the time you spent on this topic refuting so much of the misinformation.

[Sir-diealot]

Sir.   All pet insurance is third party payment.  That means you pay the vet and the pet insurance company pays you.  Every one I have dealt with has a set amount they pay for a certain diagnosis.   I am not aware of any pet insurance that pays the vet directly. 


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I did not know that, why would they not simply tell me that at the Vets office? I will have to check more.

[Sasha and Abby]

g8rvet, Thank you for all the great info and, especially, thank you for all the time you spent on this topic refuting so much of the misinformation.

DITTO....

[Bowguy]

In no way am a I responsible for what anyone chooses to do this is the choice I have made. I have had and raised beagles since I was 12 years old I am now 62. The information you have been given in the thread concerning ivomec is correct one tenth of a cc per every 10 pounds. The information on aussies and the other 2 breeds are correct also. I have in the time I have had beagles found 2 vets that were excellent and old enough that they grew up in an era that hunting dogs were used for hunting and areas where it was common place. They understood that and if I had to take a dog to the vet I could ask percentages of recovery to make my decision without being looked at as cruel or uncompassionate. I care about my dogs and take very good care of them but you have to know when to make a decision. I travel 75 miles now to one of the vets because of all this! Vets are a necessity like doctors, they are a dime a dozen but, a good one is hard to find.Keep looking until you find one that you like. I will say that I think the really younger generation has no idea because the liberal teaching they receive.

I've run beagles and bird dogs my whole life as well. I went one time to the vet cause my had had an issue, I wasn't sure what it was. Anyhow she looked at the dog, felt her all over, expertly of course, and asked if she was fixed? I said no, she started w "You know, unfixed females have a higher incidence of mammary tumors?"
I answered, "You know, fixed females have a higher incidence of no puppies." The vet tech had to smirk in her arm so as to not be impolite. There's one female vet in that practice now that understands rural people and trailers. She also understands the thoughts expressed here that every dog has a value. No judgement on that. I ask for her if I need something. Plus something not considered was until very recently when the Beagle advisory committee changed things, you could not compete in an AKC trial w a fixed dog.
Again the ops answer is yes you can do things way cheaper. I know it may upset some vets but let's be real, they're too expensive for most things unnecessary. The same services many go to the vet for are offered at a fraction of the price at a tractor supply Mobil clinic. The shots, tests are pretty cheap and administered by vets anyhow.

[donjuan]

Your vet might charge less for their service if more clients purchased their meds from them. Support your local economy and not a multimillion dollar corporation.

The heartworm test is required because their is a lot of counterfeit product online...see Seresto.

Remember free advice is usually worth what you pay for. Look at all the dogs dying of cardiomyopathy from grain free diets.

[g8rvet]

Remember free advice is usually worth what you pay for. Look at all the dogs dying of cardiomyopathy from grain free diets.

Good one! My own son was feeding his dogs grain free and thought he was doing right by them.  I made sure he was using one of the safe brands once I found out about it.

[g8rvet]

In no way am a I responsible for what anyone chooses to do this is the choice I have made. I have had and raised beagles since I was 12 years old I am now 62. The information you have been given in the thread concerning ivomec is correct one tenth of a cc per every 10 pounds. The information on aussies and the other 2 breeds are correct also. I have in the time I have had beagles found 2 vets that were excellent and old enough that they grew up in an era that hunting dogs were used for hunting and areas where it was common place. They understood that and if I had to take a dog to the vet I could ask percentages of recovery to make my decision without being looked at as cruel or uncompassionate. I care about my dogs and take very good care of them but you have to know when to make a decision. I travel 75 miles now to one of the vets because of all this! Vets are a necessity like doctors, they are a dime a dozen but, a good one is hard to find.Keep looking until you find one that you like. I will say that I think the really younger generation has no idea because the liberal teaching they receive.

I've run beagles and bird dogs my whole life as well. I went one time to the vet cause my had had an issue, I wasn't sure what it was. Anyhow she looked at the dog, felt her all over, expertly of course, and asked if she was fixed? I said no, she started w "You know, unfixed females have a higher incidence of mammary tumors?"
I answered, "You know, fixed females have a higher incidence of no puppies." The vet tech had to smirk in her arm so as to not be impolite. There's one female vet in that practice now that understands rural people and trailers. She also understands the thoughts expressed here that every dog has a value. No judgement on that. I ask for her if I need something. Plus something not considered was until very recently when the Beagle advisory committee changed things, you could not compete in an AKC trial w a fixed dog.
Again the ops answer is yes you can do things way cheaper. I know it may upset some vets but let's be real, they're too expensive for most things unnecessary. The same services many go to the vet for are offered at a fraction of the price at a tractor supply Mobil clinic. The shots, tests are pretty cheap and administered by vets anyhow.

Not sure where you live, but most rural vets, especially ones that are mixed practice or like me, were mixed practice, understand "herd medicine" for kennels/bird dogs/deer or bear dogs etc. 

[g8rvet]

I am not gonna argue anymore on here. But if someone wants a specific issue or practice answered, I will give my thoughts if you ask.

I will say having a relationship with a vet may come in handy when you have a problem and the Doc in a Box is in another town-but that is everyone's choice.  If you think a regular vet is expensive, carry a defibrillator with you if you go to an emergency clinic. I and most vets are loyal to the clients that are loyal to our practice.   

[Howie g]

I do most of my minor doctoring on my own dogs , worming etc . That said , if you think enough of your dog or any pet to bring them to a vet ? Expect to pay for there years of schooling and experience. I brought a dog of mine to vet last summer for snake bite . Normally if they get bite once they get over it with just some Benadryl, but this one got hit 4 times by a big copperhead , poor dog couldn't breath with all the swelling . The vet knew what to do and thankfully saved my prize squirrel dog .  The bill was pretty high ... but it was worth every penny to bring my dog back to my family .