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The Essence of Turkey Hunting

Started by silvestris, May 02, 2016, 05:18:17 PM

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silvestris

What I am saying is that a turkey killed with decoys has been bought.  The blinds are of no concern to me if one can stand the confinement as one has to hide properly; I prefer a couple of branches stuck up in front of me.  However, the earned turkey requires much effort to learn the turkey's language and engage it properly.  That is what Jordan is speaking of.

Oh, to hear Ken Morgan say again the words he said to me so many times, anybody can kill a turkey, but there ain't many that know how to hunt them".
"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game

stinkpickle

Quote from: silvestris on May 03, 2016, 03:22:36 PM
What I am saying is that a turkey killed with decoys has been bought.  The blinds are of no concern to me if one can stand the confinement as one has to hide properly; I prefer a couple of branches stuck up in front of me.  However, the earned turkey requires much effort to learn the turkey's language and engage it properly.  That is what Jordan is speaking of.

Oh, to hear Ken Morgan say again the words he said to me so many times, anybody can kill a turkey, but there ain't many that know how to hunt them".

Fool their sight = Bought.  Fool their hearing = Earned.  Got it. 

Ihuntoldschool

Exactly, if you learn how to call and hunt turkeys you don't need decoys or fans or any gimmicks to cheapen the experience. This comes down to respect also; the old school turkey hunting and old school hunters respect the quarry. This new breed that uses decoys and fans and some of them shoot rifles are just out to kill. If they knew how to turkey hunt they wouldn't need all those gimmicks to cheapen the experience and show disrespect to the gobbler in such a way that he appears a fool the way he acts.     They are just killing not hunting at all.  Just looking for shortcuts and gimmicks cause they don't know how to turkey hunt or won't bother to pay their dues and learn the right way to hunt them.  This new breed will be the demise of turkey hunting.

stinkpickle

Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on May 03, 2016, 04:01:08 PM
Exactly, if you learn how to call and hunt turkeys you don't need decoys or fans or any gimmicks to cheapen the experience. This comes down to respect also; the old school turkey hunting and old school hunters respect the quarry. This new breed that uses decoys and fans and some of them shoot rifles are just out to kill. If they knew how to turkey hunt they wouldn't need all those gimmicks to cheapen the experience and show disrespect to the gobbler in such a way that he appears a fool the way he acts.     They are just killing not hunting at all.  Just looking for shortcuts and gimmicks cause they don't know how to turkey hunt or won't bother to pay their dues and learn the right way to hunt them.  This new breed will be the demise of turkey hunting.

Old school hunter = Respectful.  New school hunter = Disrespectful.  Got it.

CMBOSTC

Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on May 03, 2016, 04:01:08 PM
Exactly, if you learn how to call and hunt turkeys you don't need decoys or fans or any gimmicks to cheapen the experience. This comes down to respect also; the old school turkey hunting and old school hunters respect the quarry. This new breed that uses decoys and fans and some of them shoot rifles are just out to kill. If they knew how to turkey hunt they wouldn't need all those gimmicks to cheapen the experience and show disrespect to the gobbler in such a way that he appears a fool the way he acts.     They are just killing not hunting at all.  Just looking for shortcuts and gimmicks cause they don't know how to turkey hunt or won't bother to pay their dues and learn the right way to hunt them.  This new breed will be the demise of turkey hunting.

This horse has been beat also. This is the kind of crap that needs to STOP!

silvestris

Quote from: stinkpickle on May 03, 2016, 04:09:49 PM

Old school hunter = Respectful.  New school hunter = Disrespectful.  Got it.

I do not choose to use the word disrespectful.  I think they demand success and have bought at a huge price into the hands of those who want to separate them from their hard-earned cash.  I do not think there are many who wish to disrespect the bird or themselves.  I used a decoy some for a year or two and I did not like the effect they had on the birds; they deprive the bird of its natural wildness.
"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game

Garrett Trentham

I don't want to start any ish or call anyone out, and honestly don't know why I'm even commenting...

but am I the only one that sees the same amount of BS slathered over elitist posts like these as I do hunting turkeys with a flipping umbrella? Both equally ignorant in my book.


Too each their own.
"Conservation needs more than lip service... more than professionals. It needs ordinary people with extraordinary desire. "
- Dr. Rex Hancock

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Farmboy27

Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on May 03, 2016, 04:01:08 PM
Exactly, if you learn how to call and hunt turkeys you don't need decoys or fans or any gimmicks to cheapen the experience. This comes down to respect also; the old school turkey hunting and old school hunters respect the quarry. This new breed that uses decoys and fans and some of them shoot rifles are just out to kill. If they knew how to turkey hunt they wouldn't need all those gimmicks to cheapen the experience and show disrespect to the gobbler in such a way that he appears a fool the way he acts.     They are just killing not hunting at all.  Just looking for shortcuts and gimmicks cause they don't know how to turkey hunt or won't bother to pay their dues and learn the right way to hunt them.  This new breed will be the demise of turkey hunting.
I have to laugh every time some says "respect for the quarry"!  We're out there trying to kill an animal. That animal isn't going to say "oh, they are using a respectable method to kill me so it's alright!"  Come on guys!  Get down off your high horse and admit that you are hunting to kill something and that you feel a personal satisfaction for doing it you're own way, and let others feel the same satisfaction for doing it their way!  I'm sure no turkey out there ever cared how it was killed.  Why must we keep judge ing others on how they kill their birds? 

SinGin


renegade19

I sometimes use decoys.  Sometimes I don't.  Don't anyone dare to tell me that I don't respect and admire these birds.  I could say a lot more.  I'm gonna stop though.