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What is the best choke or constriction for FCW ?

Started by Lucky Clucker, March 23, 2012, 06:21:55 PM

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Lucky Clucker

They say they shoot better from a modified or Improved choke, but see better results with more tighter chokes, anyone done any test to figure this out.?
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Grant Flaming

If you are looking for an approximate exit diameter, you will need to say what gauge you are thinking of. I shoot HW 7's out of a 20 gauge with a .575 Carlson's choke (45 points of constriction I believe) and get 110-120 in a 10" circle at 40 yards. I am happy with the results. Never shot these loads out of a different choke though. However, I am sure somebody here has...

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Fullfan

I received a briley hevishot choke today, and could not wait to shoot some Heviweights through it. Will I got just about what I thought I would. The Fed Heviweight #7 put 123 in a ten at 40 through a 11-87 sps-t with a polished 21" barrel. The constriction is a .670.

I also shot the Mag Blend shells through it. They put 180ish in the ten.

Not real impressed and it is going back to Briley.
On a side note I spent some time on the phone with Mr. Truelock. We chatted about his new choke that was built for the Heviweight #7 shot. That man had some very intrestion things to say. And if his choke does no better it will also go back.

His choke is on the way, the constriction is .650. Looking forward to running several shells through his choke.

On a side note I put 141 in the 10 at 40 with the remington factory full choke.
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Lucky Clucker

Ok ,aren't they made to be shot from a open choke, a full is not to tight but seems not to slow the wad down as a tighter choke will,defeats the purpose,I was asking about 12 ga. loads I currently shoot the CPlead 2oz, 5's,I got 1 shell lrft,lol. I thought of the heavyweight 7's but not sure yet.
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30_06

I have never used one, but Pure Gold has their Tempest choke which is made for the Flitecontrol Wad. I have had excellent results with their other chokes.

Wingbone

I shot the 12 ga FC 3" lead #5s for a while. They didn't do worth a crap out of the Imp., Mod, or Full out of my gun, but they didn't do that great out of the Jelly Head .665 or Carlson's .665 either. My best patterns with them came out of the factory Rem. Super Full, granted that was the only non-ported turkey choke I ran them through.
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Mimosa Gobbler

I use a Pure Gold Tempest .670 with great results but they came out with a .660 this year and would like to try one since this is primarily what I shoot out of my mossy 500!

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devin4484

My stepdad shots em out of his 835 3.5 no 5 hv and they shoot dang good with the ulti x full choke that came with it.  I asked him to measure the choke today and it measured .670.  No wonder it shoots em so dang good.  We have the same gun and my factory choke didn't shoot good at all so we measured it and it was .695.  So my guess is mossberg isn't machining their chokes very consistent.

allaboutshooting

Quote from: Lucky Clucker on March 24, 2012, 11:18:36 AM
Ok ,aren't they made to be shot from a open choke, a full is not to tight but seems not to slow the wad down as a tighter choke will,defeats the purpose,I was asking about 12 ga. loads I currently shoot the CPlead 2oz, 5's,I got 1 shell lrft,lol. I thought of the heavyweight 7's but not sure yet.

All of the early work with that shell, both lead and Heavyweight, indicated that for the Flitecontrol Wad to function properly, you needed a non-ported choke with an exit diameter of between .670 and .675 with 1.3" of parallel. That allows that wad to open its brakes and windows properly. When that happens, most times...the pattern will be centered and dense. All of that work was done with #6 shot both lead and Heavyweight. The lead wad and the Heavyweight wads are of different construction, as you may have noted.

We struggled to get the types of patterns that would be accepted by the hunters who took their guns to the range to see how they really patterned. It's a very complicated wad and if just one petal (brake or window) does not function properly, the shot can be off POA.

Then the #7 Heavyweight shot was introduced. That pretty much changed everything as far as what would work and unofficially we found out that we would many times be better off by defeating the intended purpose of the wad by compressing it tightly. In effect, we made a sabot of the wad and kept the petals from opening.

When the 20 gauge Heavyweight shells were introduced, we learned pretty quickly that struggling with the #6 shot version was less productive than going to the #7 shot version. It was also discovered pretty quickly that defeating the intended purpose of that wad by squeezing it down to .550 worked even better than the same procedure on the 12s.

We found that the 20 gauge SSX with a .550 e.d. patterned those shells more consistently than anything with a larger e.d. and by consistently, I mean time after time.

It remains true that to make the Flitecontrol Wad function as designed, you need, in a standard 12 gauge bore gun, a non-ported choke with a .670 - .675 e.d. but that may not yield you the best patterns. You may be much better off by defeating the purpose of the wad and going much tighter.

I apologize for the lengthy post but it's what I've found since I worked with Federal on these shells beginning in 2004.

Thanks,
Clark
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Kylongspur88

^^^ Question? by choking this load down would I risk harming a choke tube?

Fullfan

I dnt think so, As I stated above the Truelock that in on it's way is a .650. I shot the PureGold Tempest last summer and also did not do very well. I am thinking it was in the 130's at 40 with the Heviweight #7. I also sent that choke back, it was .670.

I have high hopes for the Truelock choke and will keep you all posted.....
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Lunchbox

Quote from: allaboutshooting on March 24, 2012, 04:30:28 PM

I apologize for the lengthy post but it's what I've found since I worked with Federal on these shells beginning in 2004.

Thanks,
Clark

Don't apologize, informed posts like this one is the main reason why i came to this forum. :thanks:

wvnut3

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I have the trulock fo the federal Heavyweight #7 and have been pleased with it. It is very consistant and even. The 3 1/2 numbers are average around 200 in 10''and total of 350 to 360 in 20''at 40 yds. The 3'' numbers average between 120 and 160 in 10''. I did get 214 in 10'' at 40 with a 3'' 1 5/8 oz but that shell was about 4-5 years old, and have not been able to duplicate it. These have been out of a 23 inch barrel 11-87. Even though the numbers are down the 3 inch patterns are nice and throw a nice 20inch hunting pattern. Lee