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Started by NCL, June 21, 2025, 03:03:45 PM

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Zobo

Quote from: WLT III on July 03, 2025, 09:33:21 AMGlad to see your voices were heard, but if a few thousand acres of the vast West has to be sacrificed in order to make America great again, I have no problem with it.

I've got a big problem with it, and so should any true conservative, hunter or angler.
Stand still, and consider the wonderous works of God  Job:37:14

NCL

The big problem with the sale was the size. I thought I read, but could not find again, the sale was about 40% of available public land in the effected states. Alaska sale was 82,000,000 acres and the total sale was around 260 million acres.

WLT III

Quote from: Zobo on July 05, 2025, 01:10:20 PM
Quote from: WLT III on July 03, 2025, 09:33:21 AMGlad to see your voices were heard, but if a few thousand acres of the vast West has to be sacrificed in order to make America great again, I have no problem with it.

I've got a big problem with it, and so should any true conservative, hunter or angler.
If you choose to worry about it, thats your right. Exercise it freely, as you should. I care nothing about the West, or the North for that matter. Their states, their rights, their politics.

Zobo

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Quote from: WLT III on July 05, 2025, 09:12:48 PM
Quote from: Zobo on July 05, 2025, 01:10:20 PM
Quote from: WLT III on July 03, 2025, 09:33:21 AMGlad to see your voices were heard, but if a few thousand acres of the vast West has to be sacrificed in order to make America great again, I have no problem with it.

I've got a big problem with it, and so should any true conservative, hunter or angler.
If you choose to worry about it, thats your right. Exercise it freely, as you should. I care nothing about the West, or the North for that matter. Their states, their rights, their politics.

Well yes, it's no skin off my back either personally.
But how does selling American land make America great again? Who's buying it, the Chinese or the Crown Prince of Dubai?
Stand still, and consider the wonderous works of God  Job:37:14

NCL

The problem with the above mentioned logic is this is not a  state issue but a national issue. It is not a state selling off public land which would be a local political issue but the Federal Government selling off Federal Land such as NPS and BLM land. The proposed sale only included lands in 11 western states. So the question becomes why should I care it does not effect me? But the sale of any public lands become a very slippery slope, once the sale is made and he money is spent. Then the next sale becomes easier and those public land may be in your state. I guess it is kind of like that saying about they came for others and I did not say anything because I was not one of those and when they came for me there was no left to defend me 

10th Legionaire

Quote from: NCL on July 06, 2025, 02:46:02 PMThe problem with the above mentioned logic is this is not a  state issue but a national issue. It is not a state selling off public land which would be a local political issue but the Federal Government selling off Federal Land such as NPS and BLM land. The proposed sale only included lands in 11 western states. So the question becomes why should I care it does not effect me? But the sale of any public lands become a very slippery slope, once the sale is made and he money is spent. Then the next sale becomes easier and those public land may be in your state. I guess it is kind of like that saying about they came for others and I did not say anything because I was not one of those and when they came for me there was no left to defend me 

The thing about the Sen Lee land sale that it was/is basically a fire sale to "help balance the budget and provide opportunity for affordable housing". I'm calling BS on both fronts. IMHO it's a land grab for rich dudes/companies to increase their holdings. Plus there's the very real possibility that it could be sold to foreign buyers. (Maybe I'm being a little protectionist)

Additionally, there are already procedures in place for selling/trading federal lands. This bill would have totally circumvented those procedures and greased the skids on the slippery slope that NCL is taking about.
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NCL

Quote from: 10th Legionaire on July 07, 2025, 12:16:02 PM
Quote from: NCL on July 06, 2025, 02:46:02 PMThe problem with the above mentioned logic is this is not a  state issue but a national issue. It is not a state selling off public land which would be a local political issue but the Federal Government selling off Federal Land such as NPS and BLM land. The proposed sale only included lands in 11 western states. So the question becomes why should I care it does not effect me? But the sale of any public lands become a very slippery slope, once the sale is made and he money is spent. Then the next sale becomes easier and those public land may be in your state. I guess it is kind of like that saying about they came for others and I did not say anything because I was not one of those and when they came for me there was no left to defend me 

The thing about the Sen Lee land sale that it was/is basically a fire sale to "help balance the budget and provide opportunity for affordable housing". I'm calling BS on both fronts. IMHO it's a land grab for rich dudes/companies to increase their holdings. Plus there's the very real possibility that it could be sold to foreign buyers. (Maybe I'm being a little protectionist)

Additionally, there are already procedures in place for selling/trading federal lands. This bill would have totally circumvented those procedures and greased the skids on the slippery slope that NCL is taking about.

Amen brother