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Governor Cuomo issuing Death Sentence For Upstate New York

Started by Sir-diealot, April 05, 2020, 08:19:02 AM

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Crghss

If Cuomo real did say this



stated he hasn't heard from any communities that have concerns of individuals coming to their second homes to live


Then he's lying because everyone is dealing with all the Northeast refugees flooding their state. That's why RI & FL put the National guard on their boarders. He even criticized RI for doing it so he can't say he doesn't.

Don't understand the purpose of the state shutdown if we let thousands of people from a hot spot drive in and take up residence.

First stop is grocery store than a testing center. If positive they want a hospital bed.
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Marc

Yes...  Cuomo's politics are generally atrocious...  His idiot brother is no better.  But...

Seems to me, that you have people dying in one part of the state because they don't have ventilators...  And you have ventilators in another part of the state that are not being used.

You fight the fires where they are, not where they might be.  Some of those unused ventilators could potentially be saving lives...  American lives.  Allocate the resources when & where they are needed, and if Cuomo does not move them back when they are needed, hang him.

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Sir-diealot

Quote from: Crghss on April 05, 2020, 10:09:50 PM
If Cuomo real did say this



stated he hasn't heard from any communities that have concerns of individuals coming to their second homes to live


Then he's lying because everyone is dealing with all the Northeast refugees flooding their state. That's why RI & FL put the National guard on their boarders. He even criticized RI for doing it so he can't say he doesn't.

Don't understand the purpose of the state shutdown if we let thousands of people from a hot spot drive in and take up residence.

First stop is grocery store than a testing center. If positive they want a hospital bed.
Actually they are saying over a million fled the city. We have gotten several here in Upstate, my stepfather in PA said they got a ton of them as well.


Quote from: Marc on April 05, 2020, 10:29:38 PM
Yes...  Cuomo's politics are generally atrocious...  His idiot brother is no better.  But...

Seems to me, that you have people dying in one part of the state because they don't have ventilators...  And you have ventilators in another part of the state that are not being used.

You fight the fires where they are, not where they might be.  Some of those unused ventilators could potentially be saving lives...  American lives.  Allocate the resources when & where they are needed, and if Cuomo does not move them back when they are needed, hang him.



Marc please, as I have stated, he has a stockpile of ventilators, he even admitted to having a stockpile https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/01/fact-check-does-new-york-have-stockpile-unneeded-ventilators/5097170002/?fbclid=IwAR1KBXIzlvBViP9pS1GYvAhqt6Qj10ZtcLBq-kq3eaX5aNux-FhyI0Do9EQ

Also last year or the year before NYC had the chance to buy thousands of them and chose not to and NYC was happy with them for not "wasting money on them" Upstate chose to buy them and be prepared in case something happened, once again Upstate is having to bale out NYC because they CHOOSE not to prepare. Sorry, I do not trust Cuomo to return anything, he has lied to Upstate way to many times and given NYC all the money generated Upstate, let him use that money to buy more elsewhere. Oh by the way, he took $50,000 are year from Special Olympics to give himself a raise even though the state says it is bankrupt, https://www.thedailystar.com/news/local_news/state-budget-gives-cuomo-hefty-pay-raise/article_7f040c37-ce2c-5e36-9bb7-3de8987bb396.html is that that kinda person you believe will return the ventilators?

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TravisB

So you're saying the governor of New York is intentionally killing the citizens of his state? Is there proof or documentation that anyone has died directly because of anything the governor has done or said? Do you have facts to back up this claim?


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Quote from: TravisB on April 06, 2020, 05:54:36 AM
So you're saying the governor of New York is intentionally killing the citizens of his state? Is there proof or documentation that anyone has died directly because of anything the governor has done or said? Do you have facts to back up this claim?


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Read the articles, then go search out how he has transported the sick to upstate, it is all out there and I have to go in a few minutes, check it out.
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TravisB

I think it wouldn't matter what he did, it wouldn't be the right thing for the people that didn't vote for him. Same for Trump, and I'm not a fan of that goofball and his clown show, either. Fact is, nobody has a playbook for how to deal with something like this, but to blatantly accuse someone of murdering people that didn't vote for him is absurd, no matter what you think of their politics. He's the governor of a state, not the dictator of a country. It's just tribal warfare, my tribe versus your tribe, in another form.


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Quote from: Marc on April 05, 2020, 10:29:38 PM
Yes...  Cuomo's politics are generally atrocious...  His idiot brother is no better.  But...

Seems to me, that you have people dying in one part of the state because they don't have ventilators...  And you have ventilators in another part of the state that are not being used.

You fight the fires where they are, not where they might be.  Some of those unused ventilators could potentially be saving lives...  American lives.  Allocate the resources when & where they are needed, and if Cuomo does not move them back when they are needed, hang him.

X2 on this, and I'm no Cuomo fan. Sometimes you have to put yourself in someone's situation. If you had a loved one potentially dying in the hospital because of no respirator and a hospital across town had a surplus of respirators but wouldn't part with them...

fallhnt

Not a NYer but..... Hasn't NYC closed 16 hospitals since about '03 due to socialize medicine?

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Quote from: TravisB on April 06, 2020, 06:45:40 AM
I think it wouldn't matter what he did, it wouldn't be the right thing for the people that didn't vote for him. Same for Trump, and I'm not a fan of that goofball and his clown show, either. Fact is, nobody has a playbook for how to deal with something like this, but to blatantly accuse someone of murdering people that didn't vote for him is absurd, no matter what you think of their politics. He's the governor of a state, not the dictator of a country. It's just tribal warfare, my tribe versus your tribe, in another form.


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No tribal warfare, like the way you try to make it what it is not though.

Quote from: Turkeyman on April 06, 2020, 07:08:56 AM
Quote from: Marc on April 05, 2020, 10:29:38 PM
Yes...  Cuomo's politics are generally atrocious...  His idiot brother is no better.  But...

Seems to me, that you have people dying in one part of the state because they don't have ventilators...  And you have ventilators in another part of the state that are not being used.

You fight the fires where they are, not where they might be.  Some of those unused ventilators could potentially be saving lives...  American lives.  Allocate the resources when & where they are needed, and if Cuomo does not move them back when they are needed, hang him.

X2 on this, and I'm no Cuomo fan. Sometimes you have to put yourself in someone's situation. If you had a loved one potentially dying in the hospital because of no respirator and a hospital across town had a surplus of respirators but wouldn't part with them...
I would be mad at the governor that had the chance to prepare and did not. I would not potentially cost somebody else their life. By the way they have admitted they have a stockpile, I posted links to that.

Quote from: fallhnt on April 06, 2020, 09:06:32 AM
Not a NYer but..... Hasn't NYC closed 16 hospitals since about '03 due to socialize medicine?

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Not sure on that to be honest.
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TravisB

So, do you have the numbers on how many people that didn't vote for Cuomo in upstate have died because he intentionally killed them? You said he was murdering people.


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Sir-diealot

Quote from: TravisB on April 06, 2020, 04:15:01 PM
So, do you have the numbers on how many people that didn't vote for Cuomo in upstate have died because he intentionally killed them? You said he was murdering people.


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He got blocked from doing it. He sure was trying though. He is still responsible for the murder of both unborn and born children, that ought to tell you right there he would murder us given the chance.
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

rakkin6

1. I am no longer in the loop on this kind of stuff

2. The National Guard is the oldest branch from any service.

3. It is the DUTY is those soldiers to protect the people of New York first not just NYC.

4. For you assholes that don't understand duty, meaning you never wore the uniform figure it out. So easy to sit back and be and say this or say that. Just like the people on her that are judging that Naval Captain. He made a decision to save U.S. Sailors lives. One that you never will have to make but at the end of the day you think or you want to judge him. Shame on you, unless you have ever been in command or responsible for young men and womens lives STFU. Unless you are an E8-06 or higher don't talk about command responsibility because you sound like an idiot

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Sir-diealot

Quote from: rakkin6 on April 06, 2020, 05:26:44 PM
1. I am no longer in the loop on this kind of stuff

2. The National Guard is the oldest branch from any service.

3. It is the DUTY is those soldiers to protect the people of New York first not just NYC.

4. For you assholes that don't understand duty, meaning you never wore the uniform figure it out. So easy to sit back and be and say this or say that. Just like the people on her that are judging that Naval Captain. He made a decision to save U.S. Sailors lives. One that you never will have to make but at the end of the day you think or you want to judge him. Shame on you, unless you have ever been in command or responsible for young men and womens lives STFU. Unless you are an E8-06 or higher don't talk about command responsibility because you sound like an idiot

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Well I have no idea of this Naval Captain you speak of, but I do know that moral responsibility comes first in everything in life.
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."