Diaphram purrs with lip flutter. Wrong technique to use? And why

[shedhunta]

I can not seem to purr with the "gargle" technique or "tongue flutter". I have the lip flutter down pretty good(maybe a small amount of tongue flitter with it).  Any reason I should not just roll with it or learn the gargle which seems to be the staple of the pros.  Would rather learn the "right way" if there is such a thing. 

[Coop1082]

Lips will fool a bird. I've seent it with my own two eyes! I am a gargle guy and it does sound more realistic to my ear, but more often then not I find myself not saying a word to a bird that's in range to hear a soft purr. If anything light yelps and bubble clucks are my go to soft talk if needed. My father can't purr for the life of him on a diaphragm but that man is a turkey killing machine and doesn't believe in a shot outside of 30 yards, so even without purring he gets them close and he's stoned more birds then I could ever hope to.

[MK M GOBL]

So one way to learn the gargle technique is to develop those muscles first, simple start gargling water and learn to gargle hard and soft. Once you master that quit adding water and just gargle with out water then get to the point of the mouth call and making them purrs.

MK M GOBL

[Cottonmouth]

So one way to learn the gargle technique is to develop those muscles first, simple start gargling water and learn to gargle hard and soft. Once you master that quit adding water and just gargle with out water then get to the point of the mouth call and making them purrs.

MK M GOBL

I may try that because I can't purr with a mouth call for the life of me. Do all mine on a slate but it will come in handy when he's up close. Good tip.

[Lucky_Strutter]

I do the tongue flutter method, it works for me.

[Marc]

I would say which ever method creates the best sound for you is correct.

I grew up learning that the ability to flutter your tongue is genetic, but it turns out, that is not correct.  It is probably easier for some of us (in some cases simply due to the physical structure of our tongue), but the ability to do so is not genetic.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/genetic-myth-textbooks-get-wrong/

That being said, I can flutter my tongue quite easily, and had a heck of a time purring on a mouth call...  Until, I figure out that if I move the call further back in my palate (towards my throat), that I could make the sound.  If I leave the call in the front of my mouth (where it is easier for me to make the majority of sounds), I cannot purr for the life of me.

[Lonehowl]

^^^^This is how it is for me as well.
Mark

[boatpaddle]

Try using a double thin reeded call to teach yourself to purr..

     Trying to learn to purr on a call with cuts & such makes it tough with all the side tension used...

     Good luck....

[Jbird22]

Gargle method is the only way as far as I'm concerned. It's far easier to control the volume that way which in turn leads to more realism. If you can growl like Roy Orbison in Pretty Woman you can learn to purr on a mouth call, at least that's how I was taught.