Getting vibration in my yelps.

[deerbasshunter3]

I just got my Hooks and Halloran mouth calls in the mail (Heartthrob will be here tomorrow), and they all sound good, but I keep getting a bad vibration on the yelps with all of the calls. It sounds like the front of the top reed is vibrating more than it should. I know it is me, and not the calls, but how do I get rid of the vibration?

[Coop1082]

Do you use a lot of jaw drop when yelping? On my tom teasers butt naked hen I can use all the jaw drop in the world and get zero vibration or funky sound and really crank on it but on his hillbilly hen if I get too aggressive with my jaw action, I'll throw out a really ugly note with a ton of vibration. This is just m personal experience as far as the top reed vibrating on calls goes.

[deerbasshunter3]

This is a quick soundfile I just made in my truck. What do you think?
Listen to Sounds from Wednesday afternoon by deerbasshunter3 #np on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/deerbasshunter3/sounds-from-wednesday-1

[Coop1082]

That's not the "same" sound I get, but it's pretty darned close. I didn't hear it in every yelp but the last sequence, I could pick it out a tad. It's just my 2 cents and being I can't see how your really running the call, but for me it sounds like too much air hitting the top reed and really vibrating it. I do NOT claim to be an expert, but my fix for every diaphragm I've ever ran that I've experience this with was either add more tounge pressure to really get into the bottom reeds and keep from getting so much drop off onto the top reed when dropping my jaw and getting the back end of the yelp and or not using my jaw so much. 95% of the top my mouth drops up and down in a straight in a line, but if I get a call that has vibration or too much rasp in the back end my quick fix is calling out of the corner of my mouth. Keep me from opening and closing too much. Once again take it with a grain of a salt these are just my personal experiences! That being said that doesn't sound bad at all and would fool a turkey!

[SteelerFan]

The mouth call rests against the roof of your mouth. The tape creates a seal. Your tongue below the reeds controls the amount of pressure on the reeds, and therefore controls the amount of vibration. Air (sound) is flowing across the BOTTOM of the call / reeds.

Try keeping some pressure on the reeds with your tongue. Try to produce a clean squeal (*not all calls will give you a true clean squeal due to the cuts and number of reeds).

Sometimes it helps by mentally thinking about "holding" pressure on the call with the back of your tongue, and dropping the jaw very slightly to create a two-tone yelp. keee-yuh

I'm no expert, but this has helped me getting the sound I'm looking for...

[Coop1082]

^ what he said. Almost exactly what I was trying to say, but steeler made it a lot more understandable haha.

[Pettit877]

Sounds like you are loosing air around your call ( not a good seal ).   Also sounds like you are not dropping your jaw on the back end of your yelp...watch a live hens mouth when she's yelping. Just my 2 cents

Eric

[Coop1082]

I'll try to get a soundbyte for you in just a little while. I'll run one of mine I like to think is pure turkey and as clean as it gets against one of mine that whacks out if I run it too aggressive just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about with sound quality. One thing I forgot to mention is reed material. Number of reeds plays it role in how well I can get down on a call but, I notice way more impact in the material used. Example I've got two different calls, same exact cut, both with proph bottom reeds but one has yellow latex on the top and other has red. The yellow will crank but the red won't get above a tree yelp without getting squirrelly. No idea what material the Halloran and hooks is made of but that could be something to inspect.

[deerbasshunter3]

Here it is again with some more tongue pressure. Sorry for the background noise.
Listen to Executioner 2 by deerbasshunter3 #np on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/deerbasshunter3/executioner-2

[SteelerFan]

Remember the source of air pressure is coming from your diaphragm more than just your lungs - if that makes sense?

Try starting your call sequence at the end of a breath cycle (breath in, normal exhale, THEN call). That will force you to use your diaphragm - so you get a feel for it.

[TauntoHawk]

It sounds like you are just huffing air like you are fogging up some glass but not controlling the air, the pressure on the call, or your jaw.

It would be really worth it to get Scott Ellis DVD mouth call magic imo

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