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3" Long Beard 1 3/4 oz VS 1 7/8 oz

Started by born2hunt, January 07, 2017, 01:00:55 PM

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born2hunt

Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on January 08, 2017, 02:31:42 PM
When I get a chance to pattern that L.B.s I'm going with the #6s    1 7/8...most of what I've seemed to hear in the past on the forums here have said most generally to go with the bigger payload. born2hunt...Let us know how the 1 7/8 perform compared to your 1 3/4s...if you get a chance..

I didn't get to shoot today but I will post the results when I do. I have no doubt they will meet my needs for a hunting pattern and then some, but I cant imagine getting much better than what I got with the 3/4s.
Genesis 1:26
   Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

born2hunt

Well I got around to taking a couple of shots and figured I would post the comparison. The 1 7/8 oz load put a nice even 170 in the 10 at 40.
I didnt shoot any 1 3/4s but last year I was averaging in the 200s with 230 being my best. Now it should be mentioned too that last year I was cleaning between shots and this year the gun was dirty. So if all things were equal I could see them maybe doing at least as well. But regardless...I really like the 20" pattern with the 1 7/8s better. So not a real controlled comparison but enough to dismiss any of my concerns.
This was out of a 28" 870 express mag. with an Under Taker tube in case anyone was wondering.
Genesis 1:26
   Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

SSteve

Born2hunt, what size Under Taker choke did you use? Also, is it the same size choke that you used last year?
Thanks in advance, ssteve
Steve

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Quote from: allaboutshooting on January 07, 2017, 11:48:27 PM
QuoteCan you help me understand why the faster shot slows down more quickly since they're the same weight?  It seems like if a pellet the same mass started at a faster speed that it would be faster at 40 as well?  Thanks in advance Clark.

Maybe. It's a law of physics. The faster a "sphere" is launched, the faster it slows down. So, if you have 2 spheres of equal weight, let's say #6 shot and one is launched at 1200 fps and another at 1000 fps, the first one slows down more quickly than the second one and at 40 yards, they are at just about the same speed or terminal velocity. Consequently, the terminal energy is just about the same as well.

I'm no physicist or engineer, but I think what Clark is describing is known as the "linear air resistance" hypothesis.  It roughly states that the force of air resistance is proportional to the speed of an object is applied in a direction opposite to the object's motion. 

So...the faster shot is moving, the more air resistance it encounters.  All-the-same, it's a relative thing. The faster shot is still moving faster...

1iagobblergetter

Quote from: born2hunt on February 20, 2017, 12:22:32 AM
Well I got around to taking a couple of shots and figured I would post the comparison. The 1 7/8 oz load put a nice even 170 in the 10 at 40.
I didnt shoot any 1 3/4s but last year I was averaging in the 200s with 230 being my best. Now it should be mentioned too that last year I was cleaning between shots and this year the gun was dirty. So if all things were equal I could see them maybe doing at least as well. But regardless...I really like the 20" pattern with the 1 7/8s better. So not a real controlled comparison but enough to dismiss any of my concerns.
This was out of a 28" 870 express mag. with an Under Taker tube in case anyone was wondering.
Thanks for the post..Glad the 1 7/8s worked out well for you!!

born2hunt

Quote from: SSteve on February 20, 2017, 07:36:47 AM
Born2hunt, what size Under Taker choke did you use? Also, is it the same size choke that you used last year?
Thanks in advance, ssteve

Its a 665, and yes, same from last year.
Genesis 1:26
   Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

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