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Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on June 20, 2016, 03:14:37 PMQuote from: GobbleNut on June 20, 2016, 02:51:32 PMWhether anybody here agrees with the idea of compromise or not, change is on the way in this country. We will either take a realistic look at where the overwhelming majority of the public stands on this issue, and then come to the table and make compromises that will satisfy that majority, or we will ultimately face the much harsher consequences of not doing so. Compromise.....Lol.... I'm glad I was never on a battle field with a bunch of you. I have a feeling once the first shot went off I'd be out there alone. Or surrounded by white flags Lol... i dont think the other side would even need torture tactics to get info.. Lol..you seen what happened to the Indians with compromise and coming to the table. I can't hardly believe what I'm reading. I guess everyone has their own opinion mine is never compromise. Lord help us... oh is that ok to say??? Hope I didn't offend anyone. Lol....
Quote from: GobbleNut on June 20, 2016, 02:51:32 PMWhether anybody here agrees with the idea of compromise or not, change is on the way in this country. We will either take a realistic look at where the overwhelming majority of the public stands on this issue, and then come to the table and make compromises that will satisfy that majority, or we will ultimately face the much harsher consequences of not doing so.
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on June 20, 2016, 09:47:51 PMQuote from: 1iagobblergetter on June 20, 2016, 03:14:37 PMQuote from: GobbleNut on June 20, 2016, 02:51:32 PMWhether anybody here agrees with the idea of compromise or not, change is on the way in this country. We will either take a realistic look at where the overwhelming majority of the public stands on this issue, and then come to the table and make compromises that will satisfy that majority, or we will ultimately face the much harsher consequences of not doing so. Compromise.....Lol.... I'm glad I was never on a battle field with a bunch of you. I have a feeling once the first shot went off I'd be out there alone. Or surrounded by white flags Lol... i dont think the other side would even need torture tactics to get info.. Lol..you seen what happened to the Indians with compromise and coming to the table. I can't hardly believe what I'm reading. I guess everyone has their own opinion mine is never compromise. Lord help us... oh is that ok to say??? Hope I didn't offend anyone. Lol....I agree with this. I served 5 years as a army ranger and I have been in combat. I have bleed for this country as well. I feel that there is not a compromise with a liberal. They are so out of touch with reality that it isn't even funny. Why should I compromise a God given right. I have committed no atrocities what so ever. I feel sick because I volunteered and fought for everyone in our great country to be free . Some in this great country do not deserve these freedoms that I helped to provide. I am ashamed at how weak we have become. You can't say anything without hurting someone's feelings and everyone gets a participation trophy. It's horrible. You start compromising our right to bear arms and everyone will see where this country will wind up. If you all trust this government to take care of you , well I feel sorry for you. Make no mistake , they want all Guns not just certain ones. They will chip away until they achieve this goal. This is not a speculation but a fact. Sorry for a long post but I'm really frustrated. I will say this in closing , I will never surrender one of my guns and that's just a fact. I am not trying to act tough or be a key board warrior but you can take that to the bank. I hope that there are alot of my brothers and sisters that feel the same way and has that conviction. Everyone has a right to their opinion , thanked to our first amendment. Infringe on the 2nd and watch the rest fall like a house of cards.
Quote from: Marc on June 20, 2016, 03:21:35 PMQuote from: BowBendr on June 20, 2016, 10:36:44 AMI disagree 100% with compromise. Liberals always talk about reaching across the aisle for bi-partisan agreement, like you have in the bills going up for vote today. Any compromise on our part will equal a gobbling-up power grab on their part.I want to know 2 things. One, why was the Orlando shooter taken off said watch list ? Two, when his sorry arse went to buy a firearm, why wasnt he immediately snatched up by the FBI ?The person in question was on a watch list... To my knowledge, he had committed no crime, and was NOT a criminal.What other Constitutional rights should we take away from citizens who we "suspect" as possible threats or criminals yet who have not been charged with any crimes? In other words taking away someone's rights cause we do not like them or their beliefs??Gun control is a slippery slope, and unfortunately, I think we will find that we cannot regulate our way to safety... Unfortunately, the main portion affected by gun regulation will be law-abiding citizens...What I do see that needs to be done is far more aggressive measures to prevent illegal gun sales and distribution, and far harsher punishment for illegally buying or selling guns.Personally, I think it is a dangerous line of thinking to consider taking away the rights of citizens without some proof or good reason to do so... Especially when we consider the ambiguity of being put on to a watch list... Such reasoning could easily be used to prevent the majority of citizens from gun ownership.I do not believe there are any easy answers, and with the increasing numbers of mass shootings, society is demanding that action be taken... Nobody knows what action that should be, and the most obvious answer is to get rid of guns...My feeling however, is that addressing this violence with gun regulation is similar to addressing a leaky dam by removing the water from a lake.
Quote from: BowBendr on June 20, 2016, 10:36:44 AMI disagree 100% with compromise. Liberals always talk about reaching across the aisle for bi-partisan agreement, like you have in the bills going up for vote today. Any compromise on our part will equal a gobbling-up power grab on their part.I want to know 2 things. One, why was the Orlando shooter taken off said watch list ? Two, when his sorry arse went to buy a firearm, why wasnt he immediately snatched up by the FBI ?
Quote from: the Ward on June 21, 2016, 12:04:06 PMI will not compromise. I will not comply. I will live free, the blood and lives of thousands of patriots bought me that right. It is non negotiable. The government does not "allow" me to have my rights, those were endowed to me by my Creator. My family ran off the last tyrant at the point of a bayonet. The baaaaing of the sheep is deafening. Those who give up freedom for safety deserve neither. Will the left compromise on their immigration policy? A tiny, tiny, tiny, percentage of crimes committed by semi autos and they want to ban all of them. A couple of terrorist acts committed by the "religion of peace" and the libs want to import hundreds of thousands more? You cannot compromise with that kind of mindset. The fbi had the Boston bombers, San Bernadino, and the Orlando shooter on their radar. How did that work out? All the calls and personal info being gathered by DHS didn't do anything either. So just give up a little more freedom and they will make it safer for you. No pesky due process involved. Good luck with that.
Quote from: Farmboy27 on June 20, 2016, 10:30:19 PMQuote from: Spitten and drummen on June 20, 2016, 09:47:51 PMQuote from: 1iagobblergetter on June 20, 2016, 03:14:37 PMQuote from: GobbleNut on June 20, 2016, 02:51:32 PMWhether anybody here agrees with the idea of compromise or not, change is on the way in this country. We will either take a realistic look at where the overwhelming majority of the public stands on this issue, and then come to the table and make compromises that will satisfy that majority, or we will ultimately face the much harsher consequences of not doing so. Compromise.....Lol.... I'm glad I was never on a battle field with a bunch of you. I have a feeling once the first shot went off I'd be out there alone. Or surrounded by white flags Lol... i dont think the other side would even need torture tactics to get info.. Lol..you seen what happened to the Indians with compromise and coming to the table. I can't hardly believe what I'm reading. I guess everyone has their own opinion mine is never compromise. Lord help us... oh is that ok to say??? Hope I didn't offend anyone. Lol....I agree with this. I served 5 years as a army ranger and I have been in combat. I have bleed for this country as well. I feel that there is not a compromise with a liberal. They are so out of touch with reality that it isn't even funny. Why should I compromise a God given right. I have committed no atrocities what so ever. I feel sick because I volunteered and fought for everyone in our great country to be free . Some in this great country do not deserve these freedoms that I helped to provide. I am ashamed at how weak we have become. You can't say anything without hurting someone's feelings and everyone gets a participation trophy. It's horrible. You start compromising our right to bear arms and everyone will see where this country will wind up. If you all trust this government to take care of you , well I feel sorry for you. Make no mistake , they want all Guns not just certain ones. They will chip away until they achieve this goal. This is not a speculation but a fact. Sorry for a long post but I'm really frustrated. I will say this in closing , I will never surrender one of my guns and that's just a fact. I am not trying to act tough or be a key board warrior but you can take that to the bank. I hope that there are alot of my brothers and sisters that feel the same way and has that conviction. Everyone has a right to their opinion , thanked to our first amendment. Infringe on the 2nd and watch the rest fall like a house of cards.I will say this right now. If it comes down to fighting for my guns or surrendering them, I will surrender them. I love my guns but not anywhere close to how much I love my family! If it really comes down to that, and the government confiscates our guns, then I will not fight because it will be a losing battle for sure. My family is far more important than any gun I will ever own. Anyone who thinks that the government will not be successful in taking our guns if and when they ever want to is a fool. If given the choice between living with my family or dying with my guns, I'm taking family every time! Yup, guess I am a coward. I just hope the rest of you don't have to prove that you're hero's!