Conquer the Call - Turkey Mouth Call software

[Jtpeagle41]

I picked this call training software up last week. I have only used it once but my initial reaction is pretty positive.

THE GOOD -  I like that you can see the sound data and visually confirm what you are doing right or wrong. It's a very convenient way to practice and hear yourself back. Chris Parrish is the instructor and does a good job explaining how he does each vocalization. I like the scoring aspect. That way I can compare different calls and compete with my turkey hunting buddies

THE BAD - It took a while to install. It's a pretty big program at 1.3G off of a disc. But the tech support guy was great and did not sound foreign! I wish there were more recordings to learn from. It basically has one recording of each of these cluck, yelp, purr, kee kee, cut, cackle and a cutting and yelping mix.

All in all I think it's a good value at $50. Especially if you're like me and are always running calls. It helped me pick up on a few things I can do better and it makes calling and recording, then playing back very convenient.

Anyone else tried it or plan to?

[southern_leo]

Never heard of this. Peaked my interest but for $50 I can buy some gear. Not sure any program is worth that much.

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[Jtpeagle41]

Never heard of this. Peaked my interest but for $50 I can buy some gear. Not sure any program is worth that much.

I hear ya. I had been going back and forth on getting it because of the cost but, since I didn't get to go to Nashville for the convention this year I decided to spend some of the cash I would have spent there on it.

[GobbleNut]

Interesting.  Parrish is a great turkey caller, for sure, but my first thought is that this is like a great singer trying to teach the average person that can hardly carry a tune how to be a great singer.  In most cases, it just ain't gonna happen. 

99% of us will never be able to use a mouth call like Parrish (and other champion-level turkey callers) can,...and more importantly, most of us aren't going to dedicate the time and effort to do so even if we are capable of it. 

Even more important in this entire concept is that, just like human beings, every turkey's voice is unique in some way.  Having a single (or a few) turkey's voices analysed and trying to duplicate that sound when, in reality, most other turkeys will sound somewhat differently in making that same sound, is logically questionable. 

My advice would be to spend that same $50 on a variety of mouth calls, listen to real turkeys calling on some free You Tube channels, and learn, through practicing, which types of calls work best for you in making those sounds as closely as possible.

[Swather]

How is the effectiveness of the software affected by the quality of the microphone and speakers one uses?

It is a good question to consider.

[Jtpeagle41]

How is the effectiveness of the software affected by the quality of the microphone and speakers one uses?

It is a good question to consider.

It comes with a mic. It also prompts you to recalibrate the mic every time you open the program.

[Jtpeagle41]

Interesting.  Parrish is a great turkey caller, for sure, but my first thought is that this is like a great singer trying to teach the average person that can hardly carry a tune how to be a great singer.  In most cases, it just ain't gonna happen. 

99% of us will never be able to use a mouth call like Parrish (and other champion-level turkey callers) can,...and more importantly, most of us aren't going to dedicate the time and effort to do so even if we are capable of it. 

Even more important in this entire concept is that, just like human beings, every turkey's voice is unique in some way.  Having a single (or a few) turkey's voices analysed and trying to duplicate that sound when, in reality, most other turkeys will sound somewhat differently in making that same sound, is logically questionable. 

My advice would be to spend that same $50 on a variety of mouth calls, listen to real turkeys calling on some free You Tube channels, and learn, through practicing, which types of calls work best for you in making those sounds as closely as possible.

No doubt being as good as Chris Parish is a crazy high goal but it's not really asking you to do that. It records and scores each attempt and reminds you to focus on improvement rather than overall score. Also it's not like Parish is throwing down a championship run for you to replicate. He just lays out a 10-15 second series.

Here is the introduction video that gives a better feel for it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azvhc2oxLYU

[Dr Juice]

I haven't tried it but it may be something to look into for future use. Thank you for the feedback.

[headshot870]

I bought it last year at the convention. It's pretty danged cool. It stresses pitch and cadence more than anything. It graphs out your note duration, volume changes, etc.

For me, I believe that it was a very good investment in my calling education. And, it's fun.

[silvestris]

You are not going to hear exactly how you sound on a mouth caller.  You are much better off buying a decent quality digital recorder and call to it.  Compare the sounds you produce on a caller with quality Wild Turkey recordings and adjust your technique accordingly.  When I hear my voice on a recording, I feel like I am listening to a stranger.

[perrytrails]

This actually records your calling. Stresses pitch and cadence as headshot describes.

It gives you a example of a Yelp series, then you try to copy it. Cutting, purring etc.

You can go back later and listen to how you have progressed.

It will score your calling also. Most or all of the recording you are trying to copy is Mr Parish calling.

The mic will and should be recalibrated depending on the room and acoustics surrounding you. 

Yeah you can buy $50 worth of calls and listen to turkeys in the wild and on YouTube. Basicly the way I started out with penned birds, copying their sounds.

This is a great teaching tool, well worth $50 if your serious about mastering a mouth call.

[shedhunta]

Just picked this up on sale for 29.99$ at Cabelas.  Pretty impressed so far.  The cd download version is 29.99.  I believe the latest is a USB download.  If you were on the fence for 50$ then 29.99$ is not too bad. 

[VaTuRkStOmPeR]

If you want to be a good caller, the resources are out there.

Going from an average caller to a good caller makes a difference.  Going from a good caller to an exceptional caller does, as well.  Turkeys know what turkeys are supposed to sound like.  Based listening to a lot of guys run calls, most turkey hunters are very poor w the tools of the trade.

I've seen phenomenal calling make turkeys do things they really didn't want to do. 
Whether it's the use of this program or DVD tutorials w the best in the country, anyone not making a concerted effort to improve their calling is foolish.

[rblake]

I have it. It did help me shorten the duration of my yelp. That being said,I could match the sample on the on the graph however my call frequency/pitch was not the same. I think the graph is more for volume, duration and spacing rather than the frequency or pitch. I may be wrong,