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Started by silvestris, March 09, 2014, 10:34:22 PM

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silvestris

Trying to get a good pattern from my 3" 20 gauge Remington 11-87 with a Rhino 575.  It is for my grandson.  I would appreciate any input on shotshell recommendations from those with similar setups.

I am not satisfied with the 3" Winchester XX Magnum #5s.  Thanks.
"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game

davisd9

What barrel length?


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silvestris

20" barrel; choke adds 2" for 22" total barrel length.
"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game

Tail Feathers

Federal Heavyweight Flite Control 7's.
3" shell, 1 5/8 oz load.
Seems to be the ticket for most 20's. 
NOT recommended for ported chokes.  Not sure if that Rhino is ported or not.
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silvestris

"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game

L.F. Cox

Quote from: silvestris on March 09, 2014, 10:34:22 PM
I am not satisfied with the 3" Winchester XX Magnum #5s.  Thanks.

My guess would be you need to try another choke rather than taking the easy way out by reverting  to pixie dust sized shot to compensate for a choking problem.

silvestris

Do you have a suggestion, Frank.  At this point, I fear I am limited to a change in shotshell as our first hunt is Saturday.  My present pattern is a probable at 30, but probable don't cut it.
"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game

Old Gobbler

Those 5's will reach out war further than your pattern will likely hold up - just a suggestion

I'm willing to bet your shooting about a 70-80 count pattern at best @ 40 yards , if you want a good 30-35 yard gun your there , if you want to fill out the pattern with more pellets try a shell with smaller pellets , or htl

The magblends....I have a 20 tricked out with those for my son , it gets about 110 with that shell - but watch out .....those shells will kick the snot out of a small kid -  they are stout , I tried them in a light 20 ga pump and it cleaned my clock - in your auto it may be manageable

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My Kid's and Dad use Hevi 7s and are getting 120 or so in 10"@40 from a Charles Daly 20ga/Jelly head .570/ 24" barrel and a Rem 11-87/Tightwad (can't recall constriction)/26" barrel. Dead turkeys to 40 yards and a few steps further on one shot last year.
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allaboutshooting

Quote from: silvestris on March 09, 2014, 10:34:22 PM
Trying to get a good pattern from my 3" 20 gauge Remington 11-87 with a Rhino 575.  It is for my grandson.  I would appreciate any input on shotshell recommendations from those with similar setups.

I am not satisfied with the 3" Winchester XX Magnum #5s.  Thanks.

Doris uses that same gun but with a different choke, and it's a killer at 40 yards with 3" Hevi-13 with 1.25 oz. of either #6 or #7 shot.

I'd recommend that you try those shells this time. Later, you might want to consider a different choke with them in that short barrel.

Thanks,
Clark
"If he's out of range, it just means he has another day and so do you."


silvestris

Thanks guys for the info.  Clark, would you go with more or less constriction?
"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game

Gooserbat

I'd try some #6 hevi, or go hunt down a 25 round box of Win XX 3" #6.  I did that for my boy back when he was shooting a 20 and they worked great.
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Winchester XX or Federal 3" #6's with a .575 Carlson choke
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allaboutshooting

Quote from: silvestris on March 10, 2014, 11:20:36 AM
Thanks guys for the info.  Clark, would you go with more or less constriction?

Doris uses a .550 SSX in her gun.

Thanks,
Clark
"If he's out of range, it just means he has another day and so do you."


bigbird

My sons old setup used to be a jellyhead with extended range #5's. I didn't think a 20 could shoot a pattern @35 yds that would rival a 12, but it did!