Thanks for the info.  Russ and you guys have helped me out a lot. 
I'll have a 21" youth 870 here Monday. Been talking to ATI and I'm looking hard at their stock. Gonna check out a couple others also, want the lightest possible one I can get that has good recoil reduction too. 
Now I have to figure out what choke to go with for me.  
Remmy is that a dip or did you paint the gun on the right? Looks like tree bark.