NEW BRING BACK / Hevi-Shot

[Marc]

Can you buy components to load your own shells in Cali?  You can hand load TSS for less than the HEVI 13.

It's really simple!

My issues with beginning to load are cost and time.

So would would be the start-up cost to start loading?  MEC Jr. loader, wads, hulls, powder, primers, and of course shot?

On a good year, I am firing 3 shots at a turkey, so I doubt I would break even on the cost of loading for turkey hunting in my lifetime...

I primarily hunt waterfowl, with a lot of dove and upland hunting...  Different components there.  So of course, I would try to make up some cost by loading that ammunition, but talking to people that do currently load, I would have to be doing a lot of shooting to make up for the start-up cost to begin loading.  And my understanding is that factory steel is still cheaper than loading (any) premium shot for waterfowl.

[Dtrkyman]

Understandable, I was only referring to TSS, I hand load, no press, roll crimp with a dewalt I already had.


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[Kytomgetter]

I use to shoot the hevi 13 magnum blend they were great shells

[Tom007]

Love Hevi- 7's

[ElkTurkMan]

My 870 loves the 3' 2oz #6's Hevi's.  Thankfully I still have several boxes. 

[kytrkyhntr]

My 870 loves the 3' 2oz #6's Hevi's.  Thankfully I still have several boxes. 

my dad to this day only used that wal mart 870 express he got in 1990 at wal mart with a comp n choke tube and those shells. great combo!

[Dtrkyman]

I only carried it after a part on my 20ga broke last spring, but my SBE2 shoots any "hevi shot type ammo great, I have some xtended range left, but it shot the original Remington version of hevi, the clear white hulled hevi shot and mag blends all extremely well.

Sucked carrying that cannon for a few days in the mountains, the extra lb and change is noticeable, but the xtended range and old Jelly head .660 are lethal!

[JohnD.]

My 870 loves the 3' 2oz #6's Hevi's.  Thankfully I still have several boxes. 

[davisd9]

Hard to trust their quality control

[TrackeySauresRex]

For 20g 7 shot

Hevi 18 is listed at $83/5
Hevi 13 is listed at $40/5

Ouch! H-13 was 21 a box back in the day. I'm glad I got a bunch to shoot still.

[bbcoach]

Another question that needs to be answered is, is it truly Hevi-13 or is it Hevi-12 in a Hevi-13 box.  Not a lot of difference but the first offerings were 13's then came 12 later on.  The 13 flat out HAMMERS turkeys!  Davisd9 said it best, can you trust their quality control and I'll add, their marketing.

[Gooserbat]

Brice told me that Fox Trot played around with some 13 gr/cc stuff.  I personally don't understand the allure of it but to each his own.

[Bagg-it Tag-it]

The best load I ever shot was referred to as "old white Hevi 13" number 6 shot.  I have one left that I marked 2007.  That's about when they stopped making it I think. Great pattern and had a light recoil.  The one left will stay in my museum.

A friend passed away and I ended up with 2 white Hevi-13 shells of his. #5 shot, 1 3/4 oz. Not sure I'll shoot them. But cool to look at.

[Marc]

Brice told me that Fox Trot played around with some 13 gr/cc stuff.  I personally don't understand the allure of it but to each his own.

The allure is more pellets of a larger pellet size & cheaper cost.

I do not have the data, but if you could get a similar number of #6 pellets into a shell, as that of #9 pellets, with both shells holding similar pattern density...

TSS allows you to use a smaller pellet and maintain downrange energy with very tight patterns.  But there is also something to be said for the size of the wound channel made...

How many more #9 wound channels need to be made than #6 wound channels for instant death?

Energy alone is not lethal.  Death occurrs from a shotgun by tissue damage and wound channels, and larger pellets create larger wound channels.

And of course cost...  TSS loads on the Hevi-Shot site are just about double in cost.  Maybe TSS works better, but how much better and more lethal is TSS than Hevi-Shot?  At the ranges most of us proclaim to shoot birds on this form (i.e. 40 yards and under), I doubt there would be ANY significant difference in field preformance.

I do wish that Hevi-Shot would come up with a lower payload option...  I have no need or desire to pattern and/or shoot a 2 oz load.