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Oklahoma going from 3 to 1

Started by Parrot Head, June 15, 2021, 12:13:44 PM

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silvestris

Too many hunters, all with new ideas on how to hunt them.  It ain't gonna change unless most of them quit.  I really miss the days when the hunters hunted scared and were aware that it was a sin to allow the turkeys to know that they existed.  The noise that the new hunters make, should one of them kill one, is scandalous.
"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game

Jimspur

Quote from: silvestris on June 19, 2021, 10:43:37 PM
Too many hunters, all with new ideas on how to hunt them.  It ain't gonna change unless most of them quit.  I really miss the days when the hunters hunted scared and were aware that it was a sin to allow the turkeys to know that they existed.  The noise that the new hunters make, should one of them kill one, is scandalous.

My God you are right! These yahoos will call in 5 gobblers, shoot one,
and then start screaming , hooping and hollering. Makes me sick.

Hook hanger

They act like its their first rodeo!!!!

Roost 1

My philosophy is that if I don't kill him I sure won't scare him/them, we'll play another day.
When I started hunting you were lucky if you had 1 bird to hunt all season, now I hear birds most days that I hunt, 10yrs ago I'd hear several birds everyday I hunted. I guess the old saying about things coming full circle is true in turkey hunting as well.

Paulmyr

Quote from: Roost 1 on June 20, 2021, 01:08:37 AM
My philosophy is that if I don't kill him I sure won't scare him/them, we'll play another day.
:icon_thumright:
Paul Myrdahl,  Goat trainee

"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.". John Wayne, The Shootist.

owlhoot

#65
OKLAHOMA
FALL TURKEY

            HUNTERS                TOTAL HARVEST
                             
2014      20,467                           5,600
2015      12,421                           2,421
2016      20,372                           4,429
2017      21,484                           5,640
2018      17,793                           3,764
2019      17,885                           4,878           

If this is true and 118 hens and total turkey 389 killed in 2020-21 I went to Jan 30,2021.
Then Oklahoma doesn't have to worry about closing fall season. They need to immediately shut down all turkey seasons and work like crazy to find out why.  Or make plans to start restocking efforts.

owlhoot

Grand Total SPRING 2021 reports,   Oklahoma
Male        5815
Female        33   

Grand Total SPRING 2019 reports.  63,005 hunters
  Harvest     20,864
Interim reports game harvest estimates.

HookedonHooks

Quote from: owlhoot on June 20, 2021, 02:23:05 AM
Grand Total SPRING 2021 reports,   Oklahoma
Male        5815
Female        33   

Grand Total SPRING 2019 reports.  63,005 hunters
  Harvest     20,864
Interim reports game harvest estimates.
That's a gut wrenching statistic right there... to be down nearly 75% in two years. Dropping to 1 bird might not even be enough for Oklahoma, there should be counties closed for the season entirely with habitat work done in those counties to boom the population. Then trap and transport within their own state from those protected county populations, realistically could do a lot of good in 6-8 years.