Good morning. I am seeing and hearing that TSS number 8, and 9 are producing deadly patterns. I hunt NY, and NJ. Jersey only allows 7 1/2 shot and larger, and NY only allows number 8 and larger. I hope these states can get caught up with technology and realize the benefits and performance of this new shot. How does the forum feel, thoughts welcome...
Iowa smallest is now size 8. I have contacted DNR to check into making smaller tss legal. I can't believe a warden is going to actually check the shells in my gun to see what size shot I'm using. My best local store for ammo has lots of illegal shells on the shell. Until last year Magnum Blend was illegal in Iowa because it had size 7 and 7 1/2 was legal, but 7's weren't.
The wardens carry calipers? 9 upside down is 6. That's what I write on the end of my handloads.
Don't count on in here in NY , the current dictator in the governors office does about everything he can get away against hunters.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on March 08, 2020, 12:59:19 PM
Don't count on in here in NY , the current dictator in the governors office does about everything he can get away against hunters.
King Cuomo, reelected 3 times. We are controlled by downstate. GOANY Is a good organization for firearm owners. As bad as it is we have to stay involved. I know many of you are,just putting this out there.
Quote from: howl on March 08, 2020, 11:53:21 AM
The wardens carry calipers? 9 upside down is 6. That's what I write on the end of my handloads.
:TooFunny:
NJ has researched it as well as smaller gauges. We will see what happens
Took Maine awhile, but they finally saw the light last fall. The wording is really weird, and it only goes down to size 9. Wish 10s were allowed for the .410s and 28s.
Quote from: 2eagles on March 08, 2020, 11:30:58 AM
Iowa smallest is now size 8. I have contacted DNR to check into making smaller tss legal. I can't believe a warden is going to actually check the shells in my gun to see what size shot I'm using. My best local store for ammo has lots of illegal shells on the shell. Until last year Magnum Blend was illegal in Iowa because it had size 7 and 7 1/2 was legal, but 7's weren't.
7s are bigger than 7.5s, so I can't see why 7s were illegal. Unless the regs specifically prohibited #7 shot for some weird reason.
PA shot restriction is nothing larger than #4 shot for turkey and small game, so anything under that is fair game.
Great info team. Let's hope everything up to at least #9 gets approved. Keep the faith......
Quote from: Borden811 on March 08, 2020, 06:41:28 PM
Quote from: 2eagles on March 08, 2020, 11:30:58 AM
Iowa smallest is now size 8. I have contacted DNR to check into making smaller tss legal. I can't believe a warden is going to actually check the shells in my gun to see what size shot I'm using. My best local store for ammo has lots of illegal shells on the shell. Until last year Magnum Blend was illegal in Iowa because it had size 7 and 7 1/2 was legal, but 7's weren't.
7s are bigger than 7.5s, so I can't see why 7s were illegal. Unless the regs specifically prohibited #7 shot for some weird reason.
PA shot restriction is nothing larger than # shot for turkey and small game, so anything under that is fair game.
Iowa stated specifically what sizes were legal. Didn't include 7's.
I'm waiting on Indiana to allow smaller than a 20 gauge and smaller than 7.5 shot. Until then I'll be shooting lead.
Quote from: Old Timer on March 08, 2020, 01:32:02 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on March 08, 2020, 12:59:19 PM
Don't count on in here in NY , the current dictator in the governors office does about everything he can get away against hunters.
King Cuomo, reelected 3 times. We are controlled by downstate. GOANY Is a good organization for firearm owners. As bad as it is we have to stay involved. I know many of you are,just putting this out there.
I fully support secession from NYC When Brian Kolb was still a part of my district he tried to get it through. I understand it has come up one other time but it failed again. Now it has to wait a certain amount of time to be reintroduced, I hope it passes sometime soon. I have never heard of GOANY but I did belong to SCOPE (Shooter Committee on Political Education) but have to renew.
Quote from: Tom007 on March 08, 2020, 09:10:52 AM
Good morning. I am seeing and hearing that TSS number 8, and 9 are producing deadly patterns. I hunt NY, and NJ. Jersey only allows 7 1/2 shot and larger, and NY only allows number 8 and larger. I hope these states can get caught up with technology and realize the benefits and performance of this new shot. How does the forum feel, thoughts welcome...
the states will catch up, one state already up there. give it some time. Im making a trip up that way in may. Guess ill shoot 7s just to cover myself while im up there. Ive never had to use a check station on a bird before nor do i know what yals wardens are like. I know many people who would shoot what they want and not care but im not chancing it.
NYC actually wanted to secede at one time. Enthusiasm sorta dwindled when everyone got involved a scuffle over the right to do so.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on March 08, 2020, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: Old Timer on March 08, 2020, 01:32:02 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on March 08, 2020, 12:59:19 PM
Don't count on in here in NY , the current dictator in the governors office does about everything he can get away against hunters.
King Cuomo, reelected 3 times. We are controlled by downstate. GOANY Is a good organization for firearm owners. As bad as it is we have to stay involved. I know many of you are,just putting this out there.
I fully support secession from NYC When Brian Kolb was still a part of my district he tried to get it through. I understand it has come up one other time but it failed again. Now it has to wait a certain amount of time to be reintroduced, I hope it passes sometime soon. I have never heard of GOANY but I did belong to SCOPE (Shooter Committee on Political Education) but have to renew.
You yankees kicked our butts 160 years ago and told us secession was not legal! Now it's bitin' ya in the butts! :drool: :funnyturkey:
-this is just a joke, so no one get offended, or do, up to you :)
Quote from: g8rvet on March 09, 2020, 12:39:00 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on March 08, 2020, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: Old Timer on March 08, 2020, 01:32:02 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on March 08, 2020, 12:59:19 PM
Don't count on in here in NY , the current dictator in the governors office does about everything he can get away against hunters.
King Cuomo, reelected 3 times. We are controlled by downstate. GOANY Is a good organization for firearm owners. As bad as it is we have to stay involved. I know many of you are,just putting this out there.
I fully support secession from NYC When Brian Kolb was still a part of my district he tried to get it through. I understand it has come up one other time but it failed again. Now it has to wait a certain amount of time to be reintroduced, I hope it passes sometime soon. I have never heard of GOANY but I did belong to SCOPE (Shooter Committee on Political Education) but have to renew.
You yankees kicked our butts 160 years ago and told us secession was not legal! Now it's bitin' ya in the butts! :drool: :funnyturkey:
-this is just a joke, so no one get offended, or do, up to you :)
I am not a Yank and you are not a Reb we are AMERICAN'S so let's let sleeping dogs lay. Just for the sake of argument though the Southern States wanted to succeed from the Union, that is not what this is talking about and if you look it up it is legal for states to split.
Illinois still 20 gauge and 7 1/2 as well
Buy some shells without numbers printed on them. I can't imagine someone worrying a Warden is going to cut a 10$ shell open to check the size.
It's always worth having a conversation with the warden in your jurisdiction. Although it may be illegal in your state, it may not be something that your warden enforces.
I carry a box of hevi shot 7s from years ago.
Quote from: Cowboy on March 09, 2020, 03:42:21 PM
Illinois still 20 gauge and 7 1/2 as well
IDNR regs.
"Shotgun (20 gauge to 10 gauge only, no .410 or .28 gauge
allowed); overall minimum length is 26 inches. Minimum barrel
length is 18 inches; # 4 shot is the largest shot that may be legally used or possessed while turkey hunting."
7.5 no longer listed as minimum size.
Wow