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Title: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: RaspyD on February 12, 2011, 04:44:01 PM
If you own a Remington Model 700 you may want to watch the videos found here:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39554936/

The last two stories, "Family Tragedy" and "Inventor Mike Walker" were also shown in last night's episode.  Pretty scary stuff!!  The inventor of the 700, Mike Walker, stated that the problem could have been fixed a long time ago at a whopping cost of 5 1/2 cents per gun!

What is it going to take to get Remington to take care of this problem??
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: new2turkey on February 12, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
Wow... no no. Recalling all the firearms would cost TOO much money.  ::)
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: PANYHunter on February 12, 2011, 04:53:54 PM
Thats why I ALWAYS keep the barrel pointed in a safe direction
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: Kylongspur88 on February 12, 2011, 04:57:45 PM
As I've said before I saw a local gunsmith get a new 700 to fire 2 times out of 4 by just closing the bolt.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: drum817 on February 12, 2011, 05:00:30 PM
You should probably take look at Remingtons response to CNBC, check out this link and click on "Video response to CNBC"....

http://www.remington700.tv/#/home
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: yella yelper on February 12, 2011, 05:10:44 PM
I agree with drum. This is some left wing publication with little or no validity. I can make any rifle do that if I modify the trigger or grossly mis-maintain it. If they are so bad and unpredictable, why is the military still stockin up on them?  Remington's response is on you tube as well. I'll gladly take anyone's 700 off them if they no longer want it.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 12, 2011, 05:15:06 PM
my Son Brad bought a new .270 in the 700 a few years ago. before he ever shot it i had the bolt rebuilt and the safety adjusted
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: kamski1151 on February 12, 2011, 05:44:53 PM
Buy a Savage :smiley-char092:
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: R AJ on February 12, 2011, 05:49:35 PM
The Rem 788 I have had since 1973 has NEVER mis-fired and Another fellow who has two of them has never had a problem. I saw the video about three months ago and that is scary but I trust mine so much I will do as others and always point it in a safe direction and be careful. Several instances did not portray pointing in a safe direction for starters.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: WyoHunter on February 12, 2011, 07:11:44 PM
I've never had a problem with mine (1972) that I bought used in 1983. That said I had a trigger job done on it because the trigger pull on it was horrendous. Most accidents can be avoided by following basic firearms safety rules.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: Fox Fire on February 12, 2011, 07:54:17 PM
I watched the interveiw with the gent who designed/developed the trigger sevral months back and if I remember he told Rem. they had a problem but they refused to do anything about it, I've owner Rem's. before and will probably own one at some other time but I cant pick one up and not wonder about the saftey.

If correct the compatition shoot'n crowd seem to like the Rem.s and I'm certain ther triggers have been modified, but (not that I hang whith comp. shooters) you dont hear them complain'n.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: RutnNStrutn on February 12, 2011, 08:29:33 PM
I had a 700 for years before I sold it to finance my purchase of a TC Encore. Never had any problems with it. Also, if you follow gun safety rules, such as keeping the barrel pointed in a safe direction (not AT your 9 year old), if it did go off, no one would be hurt or killed.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: TRKYHTR on February 12, 2011, 08:30:58 PM
I blew a hole in the floorboard of my Dads brand new Dodge Powerwagon back in the mid 70's. I told him it wasn't my fault I'll have to show him this thread.

TRKYHTR
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: RutnNStrutn on February 12, 2011, 08:45:10 PM
Quote from: TRKYHTR on February 12, 2011, 08:30:58 PM
I blew a hole in the floorboard of my Dads brand new Dodge Powerwagon back in the mid 70's. I told him it wasn't my fault I'll have to show him this thread.TRKYHTR
Bet you wished you had the Internet back then!!! :lol: :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: timbrhuntr on February 12, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
I've had a model 700 in 300 winchester mag for over 20 years as my moose gun. I have never had an issue with it and love it. I also keep it maintained and follow basic gun handling safety.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: mason0366 on February 13, 2011, 12:23:38 AM
I seen that last night. Sad they said 5 1/2 cost to much.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: Reloader on February 13, 2011, 01:19:09 AM
Total BS. Watch the Remington video, it tells the other side of the story.  Come on guys, it was on CNBC!

Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: knightrider on February 13, 2011, 01:23:43 AM
how many of these defected guns had been tinkered with by folks trying to lighten the trigger. i think the desighn guy is covering his own butt by saying rem wouldnt fix it,i have a hard time believing rem would not stand behind their product and fix it right for the safety of their customers. :cross2:
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: RaspyD on February 13, 2011, 08:15:52 AM
The millions they have paid out in lawsuits tells me it's not BS.  And the way I read it is that the Walker trigger could not be adjusted by folks who wanted to tinker with it to lighten it.  The design guy, Walker, told them about the problem in 1946.  He is 94 years old now...don't think he is too worried about covering his butt.

By Remington's conservative estimates, they said only 1% of the 2 million guns would accidently fire.  That's still 20,000 guns.  How many is too many??

I am a Remington owner and have always liked their products.  The message everyone should get from this is to treat any firearm as if it could fire at that moment and always be aware of where the muzzle is pointing.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: TnHunter on February 13, 2011, 08:33:42 AM
I have a rem 700 in 7mag and have never had a problem with it.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: R AJ on February 13, 2011, 08:41:36 AM
Quote from: Reloader on February 13, 2011, 01:19:09 AM
Total BS. Watch the Remington video, it tells the other side of the story.  Come on guys, it was on CNBC!



Is that Communist News Broadcasting Channel? :z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: S.C.C on February 13, 2011, 10:13:04 AM
The only way it can or will happen is if the trigger group has been adjusted wrong or out of sequence.
Rem. has fixed this as you can no longer adjust a trigger group on most 700's without doing some major
smithing on it.On any older 700 it would be advised to check the trigger group if the glue/plugs are missing
it needs to be re adjusted and plugged,over time on the older guns the plugs do come out and the trigger will also
get out of adjustment and this will allow the gun to possibly fire taking the safety off or raising and lowering the bolt.
A competent gunsmith with this knowledge should be the only person to work on a mod. 700 trigger group!!
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: stinkpickle on February 13, 2011, 11:43:03 AM
Quote from: Reloader on February 13, 2011, 01:19:09 AM
Total BS. Watch the Remington video, it tells the other side of the story.  Come on guys, it was on CNBC!



I would trust NEITHER source, especially not any message from the company that manufactured the product in question.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: Fox Fire on February 13, 2011, 12:28:40 PM
Stink pickle has a good point, because it a money issue they aint gonna admit to nothin, Rem. is kinda up against the wall now days and a major cash loss could be just enuff to fold them.

Not only lawsuits from indaviduals but the recall/repairs would be astronomical, and most people like a crisp trigger, me included so I wont hesitate to have the trigger worked to make it better, now thers a lotta guns be'n built with "lawyer triggers" in place so you cant tinker with'em for this very reason.
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: devin4484 on February 13, 2011, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: kamski1151 on February 12, 2011, 05:44:53 PM
Buy a Savage
:wave:
Im with this guy!
Title: Re: Remington Model 700 owners beware!!
Post by: Limbstrutter on February 13, 2011, 12:57:04 PM
I too believe it's all about the money and law suits. Just think about all the law suits that have put some of the others out of Biz.
That news company is in bed with our Prez. and believe me their not done coming after our guns. Just like the shooting in ARZ. lets just ban 30 round magizines  I guess the guy couldn't carry say 4, 10 round clips ,REALLY. There just putting their foot in the door for whats to come.