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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Halfstrut on February 08, 2020, 07:47:39 PM

Title: Need patterning opinions
Post by: Halfstrut on February 08, 2020, 07:47:39 PM
I need someone to tell me I'm over thinking this haha. I probably have been looking at Facebook too much but I've been chasing a pattern that gives me 400 hits in a 10" circle at 40 yards. This year I made the change to apex #9 and Indian creek choke from federal tss blend and Carlson's choke. Today I patterned the apex and averaged 350 in 10" and 80% of the pattern in 20" circle. Should I strive for better? Is having a bit of a more open pattern maybe beneficial for forgiveness if I make a bad shot or the bird moves? I know this is all so subjective, just wanted to hear thoughts from more experienced guys. I'm shooting an SBE II by the way.
Title: Re: Need patterning opinions
Post by: dirt road ninja on February 08, 2020, 09:53:49 PM
What payload are u shooting?
I would not be happy with 350 out of 2.25 oz loads, in my 20 gauge i'd be looking to open up some if throwing 350's. I like tight patterns, they all tight at a few steps and even tight shooting guns are about basket ball sized patterns at 25 yards.  I sight my shotguns in and I don't feel like I need extra room if he moves.
Title: Re: Need patterning opinions
Post by: Halfstrut on February 09, 2020, 06:33:21 AM
Apex 2.75" 2oz. I know most guys shoot 3 or 3.5, I've always been a 3.5 guy myself, but my rationale was that 2oz of tss should be plenty. Good points about the right patterns.
Title: Re: Need patterning opinions
Post by: BandedSpur on February 09, 2020, 07:11:40 AM
I like to see around 50% of the pattern in the 10" and as much of the rest of the pattern as I can get in the 10-20. So for a 2 oz load, that is about 350/10 with 9s or 250/10 with 8s.
Title: Re: Need patterning opinions
Post by: dirt road ninja on February 09, 2020, 08:38:25 AM
2oz load and 350 would be good by me.
Title: Re: Need patterning opinions
Post by: Gobble! on February 09, 2020, 10:38:11 PM
No turkey is walking away from that. I don't consider myself the best shot so I also pay attention to the 20". With 350 in the 10" and 80% in the 20" that means you put roughly 225 in the 10-20". 350/225 is a solid patten.
Title: Re: Need patterning opinions
Post by: Dr Juice on February 10, 2020, 05:54:49 AM
Quote from: Gobble! on February 09, 2020, 10:38:11 PM
No turkey is walking away from that. I don't consider myself the best shot so I also pay attention to the 20". With 350 in the 10" and 80% in the 20" that means you put roughly 225 in the 10-20". 350/225 is a solid patten.
I concur.
Title: Re: Need patterning opinions
Post by: dzsmith on February 10, 2020, 12:40:53 PM
the pattern will kill.....but you are way below what you should expect. no reason your shouldn't be to hit 400....im in the same boat with the apex. Im averaging higher than you but still ....feel something isn't right.
Title: Re: Need patterning opinions
Post by: BINK McCARTY on February 10, 2020, 07:23:20 PM
Really depends on how much money you are willing to spend chasing what I call "Paper chasing". Ask yourself this question and answer it to YOUR satisfaction, no one else's. Are you willing to spend alot more money improving an already deadly VERY huntable pattern. Myself, I like a good 60/40 split. 60% in the 10", and 40% in the 20" of the entire payload. To me, shooting any more than 2 oz. of TSS is just a waste. And really don't even need that much. Check out foxtrot ammo online. Good luck to ya!!!
Title: Re: Need patterning opinions
Post by: NYshotgunner on February 10, 2020, 08:46:58 PM
Quote from: Gobble! on February 09, 2020, 10:38:11 PM
No turkey is walking away from that. I don't consider myself the best shot so I also pay attention to the 20". With 350 in the 10" and 80% in the 20" that means you put roughly 225 in the 10-20". 350/225 is a solid patten.

With this I'd sleep good at night, no hunting worries!
Title: Re: Need patterning opinions
Post by: Halfstrut on February 11, 2020, 08:05:04 PM
Appreciate all the info guys. I think I'll roll with this for this season. Maybe next season I'll try a different choke just for kicks.