in the real world of turkey hunting, what do yoiu really gain by adding the long box? i am not talking about call contests, your hunting room at home, getting together with turkey hunting buds ion the off season, or anywhere else lkike that. i am talking about using a long box out in the woods on a spring morning during turkey season.
if you have a 2-3 pots, a short box, and maybe a push pin thrown in for good measure, what roll is filled when buying a long box? is it strictly volune?
are the wood choices that you like in shrt boxes transfor to long boxes?
Personally I'd carry a long box and scratcher for wood. The long box seems to reach out and grab em. I've called birds in w a short box so far off I could see them gobble to me and not actually hear em but more often than not the longbox is the one striking/calling far off birds.
Imo a long box is just a better call most often.
You can gobble better, you can kee kee, the yelps break better
In the spring I see no real benefit of a long box over a short personally. In the fall they tend to do a better kee-kee than a short box and u'll generally find more feathers in a long box.
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You definitely get more volume with a long box. I carry a a long box hunting all the time, but they r a pain to carry in your vest. I think u get a higher pitch yelp and cutts with long boxes.
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The longbox is more versatile than a shortbox. I only carry a longbox and a scratch box and rarely use the scratch box. There is definitely some overlap in choices between long and short boxes, but in general it's hard to beat a butternut body in the longbox, poplar, mahogany and walnut are good too.
I'll go against the grain although I have some very high end long boxes I prefer a short box hands down.
Not only are they much more convenient to carry and easier to run. I have several short boxes I think are just as loud if not louder.
A long box does have a wider range of sounds from high to low that it can run but I think whatever a short box is tuned for it does better then the long box at that same range. I often carry two short boxes over a longbox or a longbox/shortbox combo.
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Try a henbox . I will take one of these over a long box anyday. Great volume and can get just as many hens out of one of these as any long box. easier to pack and gives you a completely different sound than any cost style box or long box.
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on May 21, 2018, 03:38:38 PM
Try a henbox . I will take one of these over a long box anyday. Great volume and can get just as many hens out of one of these as any long box. easier to pack and gives you a completely different sound than any cost style box or long box.
I have not run a hen box but should, maybe I will trade one of my longboxes off for one
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on May 21, 2018, 03:38:38 PM
Try a henbox . I will take one of these over a long box anyday. Great volume and can get just as many hens out of one of these as any long box. easier to pack and gives you a completely different sound than any cost style box or long box.
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but what is a henbox?
Quote from: JonD. on May 21, 2018, 09:57:29 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on May 21, 2018, 03:38:38 PM
Try a henbox . I will take one of these over a long box anyday. Great volume and can get just as many hens out of one of these as any long box. easier to pack and gives you a completely different sound than any cost style box or long box.
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but what is a henbox?
It is a turkey killer...
Sounds like I need one then.
For me a long box has more turkeys in the box....short box has less...
Quote from: Greg Massey on May 22, 2018, 07:18:50 PM
For me a long box has more turkeys in the box....short box has less...
That's it. And it can work from a long distance to right up close.
Quote from: JonD. on May 21, 2018, 09:57:29 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on May 21, 2018, 03:38:38 PM
Try a henbox . I will take one of these over a long box anyday. Great volume and can get just as many hens out of one of these as any long box. easier to pack and gives you a completely different sound than any cost style box or long box.
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but what is a henbox?
Hen boxes are made by Richard Hudson, Morgan, fulkerson, Whitt. Probably a few others. If you search Hudson Hen Box you should find some...
Thanks sixbird.
Quote from: JonD. on May 21, 2018, 09:57:29 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on May 21, 2018, 03:38:38 PM
Try a henbox . I will take one of these over a long box anyday. Great volume and can get just as many hens out of one of these as any long box. easier to pack and gives you a completely different sound than any cost style box or long box.
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but what is a henbox?
They are deep and narrow and about the length of a short box often with a handle, they do not use a spring under the paddle so you tilt the lid a bit like a long box
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Well, I might ask, why carry 3 pot calls, or a push pin?...similar thought can apply to a longbox and a shortbox. Both boxes, as well a hen box can be very effective depending on the birds, the day, the breeding period, the weather and so forth. Presuming one knows how to run both a LB and a SB, a LB is and always will be louder than a SB, but that is NOT the reason I carry both, nor the reason I might choose to run a LB versus a SB at any given moment on the hunt. They simply sound different than each other, in a similar manner a slate sounds different than a glass pot call. It offers diversity in sound to the gobbler or to the hens and lends another tool in your call arsenal.
Agreed that a LB is not convenient to carry and there hasn't been a vest designed yet to carry one easily. IF, you really spend a lot of time running each and exploring the sounds in each you will hear distinct turkeys...variances in clucks, yelps and gobbles. There ARE more hens in a LB. A LB is not for everyone that is for sure, but I propose like any other call(s) if you have confidence in it, or any call for that matter you are more likely to carry one, run it and be successful, thus that's what your take to the turkey woods.
I also like the fact that if you fall hunt, a LB will be your fundamental GO TO call.
Quote from: TauntoHawk on May 30, 2018, 05:33:46 AM
They are deep and narrow and about the length of a short box often with a handle, they do not use a spring under the paddle so you tilt the lid a bit like a long box
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Thanks! I did find a couple of YT videos showing them being ran and the difference between them and a regular short box. They sound good.
Quote from: Marc_Stokeld on May 21, 2018, 08:53:55 AM
in the real world of turkey hunting, what do yoiu really gain by adding the long box? i am not talking about call contests, your hunting room at home, getting together with turkey hunting buds ion the off season, or anywhere else lkike that. i am talking about using a long box out in the woods on a spring morning during turkey season.
if you have a 2-3 pots, a short box, and maybe a push pin thrown in for good measure, what roll is filled when buying a long box? is it strictly volune?
are the wood choices that you like in shrt boxes transfor to long boxes?
A couple inches?
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Quote from: JonD. on May 22, 2018, 06:25:33 PM
Sounds like I need one then.
Absolutely. At least one. Lol.