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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Guns => Topic started by: RiverRoost on March 28, 2018, 02:09:57 PM

Title: Acceptable tss #'s?
Post by: RiverRoost on March 28, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
What are acceptable tss 10" numbers at 40 yards with 9's? Got an M2 with sumtoy 562 and big stubby XL loads that only did 206. It's a great pattern for hunting but not the flashy pattern I was expecting. I was worried about the 562 being too tight but it may just be the shell the choke didn't like.
Title: Re: Acceptable tss #'s?
Post by: taylorjones20 on March 28, 2018, 03:48:22 PM
250+- in the 10 and 250+- in the 20 is what I strive for.  Good even hunting pattern.  Kinda surprised at that low of a count.  Did you happen to clean the barrel real good before patterning?
Title: Re: Acceptable tss #'s?
Post by: howl on March 28, 2018, 04:05:46 PM
You're not alone. I had better luck with a different load using a different wad.
Title: Re: Acceptable tss #'s?
Post by: bowhunter2k9 on March 28, 2018, 05:00:34 PM
Quote from: RiverRoost on March 28, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
What are acceptable tss 10" numbers at 40 yards with 9's? Got an M2 with sumtoy 562 and big stubby XL loads that only did 206. It's a great pattern for hunting but not the flashy pattern I was expecting. I was worried about the 562 being too tight but it may just be the shell the choke didn't like.

You need to try a Carlson's .575 ext choke. I loved my sumtoy in my remington, but my stoeger (that's close to the m2 barrel) loves the Carlson's
Title: Re: Acceptable tss #'s?
Post by: RiverRoost on March 28, 2018, 06:59:44 PM
My 870 with those shells and a Remington super full (.572) was smoking at 20 yards. Like basketball tight pattern. I know this is a different gun and choke but I've read good stuff on the sumtoy 562. Wondering if the choke is too tight.

Yes I cleaned the barrel really good before I shot it. I ahot one dove load to check my impact then one at 20 yds and I think 3 more at 40 yards bringing my sights up
Title: Re: Acceptable tss #'s?
Post by: Spurs Up on March 28, 2018, 09:37:39 PM
Quote from: RiverRoost on March 28, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
What are acceptable tss 10" numbers at 40 yards with 9's? Got an M2 with sumtoy 562 and big stubby XL loads that only did 206. It's a great pattern for hunting but not the flashy pattern I was expecting. I was worried about the 562 being too tight but it may just be the shell the choke didn't like.

I'm not a big fan of shooting a combo that produces a hot core, but 206 in the 10" at 40 with a load containing almost 600 pellets is too thin for me. It's sure to result in an inordinate number of pellets well outside the 20" circle. Sounds like a blown pattern and time to try something with less constriction. I'd look for something in the neighborhood of .575-.585 next.
Title: Re: Acceptable tss #'s?
Post by: BandedSpur on March 29, 2018, 07:40:00 AM
I look for 50% of the load in 10" @ 40, with as much of the remainder in the 10-20" as possible.