Just got an enticer wet aluminum call, it runs well anywhere on the surface, I have always sanded one direction and played across it, this call plays in any direction, would I ruin it if I sand in only one direction, it seems like it was sanded in a circular motion?any ideas?
Always condition in one direction. Not sure why it would be conditioned it a circle. Your striker running over the ridges is what causes the vibrations which in turn makes the sounds.
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Quote from: southern_leo on March 25, 2018, 09:30:53 PM
Always condition in one direction. Not sure why it would be conditioned it a circle. Your striker running over the ridges is what causes the vibrations which in turn makes the sounds.
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Sand in one direction, turn it and call against the grain.
Watch the enticer videos on you tube, his calls can be played in any direction , anywhere on the call
Quote from: potter on March 26, 2018, 01:20:38 PM
Watch the enticer videos on you tube, his calls can be played in any direction , anywhere on the call
I believe all his are blasted glass which is why you can do that
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Condition that call with 400grit & green scotch brite. I was a machinist for 31 yrs. & all my call are precision made. Sound chamber, glass grove & sound board are all held to + or - .001.That is way you can sand it any way you like. It will play 360 not just one spot If you have to sand a call one direction, it is not a precision made call. check this video. http://www.enticerturkeycalls.com/shop/turkey-calls/silver-thunder-extreme-aluminum/
The precision of a call being made has nothing to do with the way a surface is conditoned. If your calls are made with great precision but you put raw aluminum or slick glass in a call you HAVE TO CONDITION IT. It is impossible for a striker to play on a slick surface. I like enticer calls and own one, but don't knock other makers saying they aren't precision if you have to condition the surface, because that is false. I own a wet one and it is blasted glass. Blasting the glass is conditioning the surface. Sanding and using stones are just other ways to accomplish that. Sanding and stones leave larger groves than blasting which is why you use the same direction.
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Quote from: southern_leo on March 26, 2018, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: potter on March 26, 2018, 01:20:38 PM
Watch the enticer videos on you tube, his calls can be played in any direction , anywhere on the call
I believe all his are blasted glass which is why you can do that
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Mine is slick aluminum. He recommended scotch brite and now I just use alcohol to clean the residue or oxidation.
Quote from: fishr64 on March 26, 2018, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: southern_leo on March 26, 2018, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: potter on March 26, 2018, 01:20:38 PM
Watch the enticer videos on you tube, his calls can be played in any direction , anywhere on the call
I believe all his are blasted glass which is why you can do that
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Mine is slick aluminum. He recommended scotch brite and now I just use alcohol to clean the residue or oxidation.
He did at the beginning which is fine and correct. I don't like when other call makers make public comments that are condensending to other makers. The end of his comment was out of place. One direction conditioning is correct for consistent sound.
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I don't know how this got derailed. All the calls I own sound great, no matter which part of the call I condition, as long as it is conditioned. I'm not sure how Leo's point got construed into this being about tolerances.
Have you considered using rain chalk on the tip of your striker
I still think your missing my question, I think I will just use scotch brite lightly in a circular motion for now.
I forgot to mention I liked the aluminum pot so much, easy to play and sounds great. I just got my enticer slate and it works the same as the aluminum, any direction, which for me makes it far easier to play. For me imop
Potter, you might have got a gray stone with that aluminum call. If you did rub that gray stone in a spot where you want to play it & the striker will never slip & will be real raspy. On your slate call you never have to condition it , not that I use a different slate then most but the call is precision made is way they play easy. Take the slate call & rub it on you shirt & it will still work good. Try it you will be a surprised. Do not sand that aluminum call so it looks like railroad tracks. thanks al
Potter, forgot here is a link to see the gray stone . http://www.enticerturkeycalls.com/shop/accessories/pro-pack-conditioner-kit/
Quote from: potter on March 27, 2018, 09:43:43 AM
I forgot to mention I liked the aluminum pot so much, easy to play and sounds great. I just got my enticer slate and it works the same as the aluminum, any direction, which for me makes it far easier to play. For me imop
Even blasted aluminum will require conditioning after riding in the vest, the surface has little memory. You can condition in a circular pattern if the pot call responds across the whole face as yours does. On pots that have "dead spots" then conditioning perpendicular to the direction you are dragging the striker matters more.
Thanks al, I did get the greystone will try it. The slate call is a great call too.i just cant put them down and am amazed at the difference in tones with different strikers and places on the pot. Thanks again, keep the videos coming.
Highly recommend Als' calls, great guy to deal with too. IMO his strikers are very underated as well they play real consistent for me.
Im not buyin any of this, my calls play any direction & the whole surface all the way across & they arent measured down to nearly .001?? Just milimeters. This has nothin to do w/ it IMO. Mike
Quote from: mspaci on March 27, 2018, 06:55:05 PM
Im not buyin any of this, my calls play any direction & the whole surface all the way across & they arent measured down to nearly .001?? Just milimeters. This has nothin to do w/ it IMO. Mike
Talking about the same thing. In my experience this pertains mass production pot calls, not custom made. I wouldn't let a pot go out the door if it didn't play across the whole surface. But production calls from box stores, I've run good ones and bad ones. I have an old Quaker Boy aluminum in a plain plastic pot I wouldn't trade for the world. And I've had other production pots that did a better job keeping water rings off furniture than make passable turkey sounds.
Just my experience.
I dont think you understand what I mean by anywhere on the surface.i always sanded east to west played north to south.watch his video, you can pick up the call play anywhere without worrying if your going against the grain.
If the maker sanded it circular that oughta work. I personally condition one way. I'm no fan of a Pa maker but he sends the calls apparently at least sometimes sanded circular. My buddy loves em and has since sanded the rest that way. He said it adds to playability of call. I should mention I'm only referring to slick aluminum
If I'm not mistaken years past that's how it was conditioned
its all in how its conditioned & not because of the .001 precision thing. Mike