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Title: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Bigeclipse on January 14, 2018, 08:13:32 AM
I've been looking to get a new turkey gun. I've decided my budget fits either a mossberg 835 or 935. At the stores around me I have found a camo 835 with 24in barrel for 395$ and a 935 for 495$. Is literally the only difference between these is pump versus semi? Will they tend to pattern similarly? Which do you prefer for turkey hunting? I always like to try and save money but if there is a reason to spend the extra 100$ please let me know! Thanks!
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: bbcoach on January 14, 2018, 04:39:08 PM
I have the 835.  I have killed many birds with it.  Patterns Great with most loads and chokes.  Great dedicated turkey gun IMO.  I hear from the guys on this site, the 935 is a shooter also.  935 may reduce some recoil due to the gas operation but it has the same overbored barrel and plenty of chokes to choose from also.  IMO Mossberg makes a Quality dedicated turkey gun and it won't break the bank.     
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Double B on January 14, 2018, 05:23:43 PM
835 is hard to beat, save the money.  :z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Bowguy on January 14, 2018, 05:33:43 PM
Good advice. I have an 835 too, saw no need for a 935 ever except as bbcoach said, recoil reduction
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: knightrider on January 15, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
Whichever you decide get the pistol grip, your face will appreciate it :OGturkeyhead
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Bigeclipse on January 16, 2018, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: knightrider on January 15, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
Whichever you decide get the pistol grip, your face will appreciate it :OGturkeyhead

According to Mossberg's website the 835 does not come with a pistol group on any model. Why does a pistol grip save your face? Only ever shot shotguns with regular grip. Never used a 3.5inch shell but have used many 3in magnum loads and slug loads with no issues.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: davisd9 on January 16, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
The 935 will kick no less than the 835.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Bowguy on January 17, 2018, 01:06:19 PM
Quote from: knightrider on January 15, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
Whichever you decide get the pistol grip, your face will appreciate it :OGturkeyhead
Certain states do not allow pistol grips on any semis including shotguns. If you plan to travel w the gun be aware so you don't break some stupid states gun laws.
Not sure exactly how a pistol grip would affect felt recoil in your face though. Imo other variables are way more important. Not to discount the above posters experience
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: bbcoach on January 17, 2018, 05:54:45 PM
You will get some cheek slap from the 835 and 3 1/2" inchers but a Beartooth Comb Raising kit will take care of that.  Neoprene cover with different thicknesses of foam will cushion the blow.  With 3" you won't notice much cheek slap.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on January 18, 2018, 07:25:38 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on January 16, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
The 935 will kick no less than the 835.

Incorrect.   I have owned both.  The 935 will ALWAYS recoil less than the same weight 835.  Period.  Argue with physics as I know you want to but you are wrong. 
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: davisd9 on January 18, 2018, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on January 18, 2018, 07:25:38 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on January 16, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
The 935 will kick no less than the 835.

Incorrect.   I have owned both.  The 935 will ALWAYS recoil less than the same weight 835.  Period.  Argue with physics as I know you want to but you are wrong.

No need to be a douche. Both kick hard and there is not a large noticeable difference. You are right that if you sit down and scientifically count it out the 935 may have a little less of force in recoil but your shoulder will not see a significant difference, you are not the only one to ever shoot both.


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Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on January 18, 2018, 07:32:50 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on January 17, 2018, 05:54:45 PM
You will get some cheek slap from the 835 and 3 1/2" inchers but a Beartooth Comb Raising kit will take care of that.  Neoprene cover with different thicknesses of foam will cushion the blow.  With 3" you won't notice much cheek slap.

This, though not entirely correct.  The cheek slap comes from the stock geometry.  Drop at the heel creates cheek slap and for some reason Mossys are more steep than most.  Yes a cheek pad/comb raising kit will help but a stock shim adjustment kit will help more.  Combine the two along with a good recoil pad and recoil willmtame right down.  My current 835 (I've owned and sold 7 others) wears a tnumbhole stock that really reduces the drop at the heel.  Makes the recoil come almost straight to the rear. 
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on January 18, 2018, 07:36:23 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on January 18, 2018, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on January 18, 2018, 07:25:38 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on January 16, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
The 935 will kick no less than the 835.

Incorrect.   I have owned both.  The 935 will ALWAYS recoil less than the same weight 835.  Period.  Argue with physics as I know you want to but you are wrong.

No need to be a douche. Both kick hard and there is not a large noticeable difference. You are right that if you sit down and scientifically count it out the 935 may have a little less of force in recoil but your shoulder will not see a significant difference, you are not the only one to ever shoot both.


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Wasn't being a douche there buddy so how bout you ratchet down.   Don't get your panties in a wad.  You made a totally incorrect statement though so if you need me to be a douche and explain why you're wrong I'd be happy to. 
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: FloppinTom on January 19, 2018, 05:52:52 PM
There is no forearm rattle with the 935!
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Bowguy on January 19, 2018, 06:40:29 PM
Never seen a forearm rattle on an 835 either. That's one gun that almost everyone I know has and not one has forearm rattle. No one I know has a brand new one either, prob all more than 10 years old. Mine is from around 1990.  The 500 now that's a rattle gun!!
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: FloppinTom on January 19, 2018, 09:59:28 PM
Bowguy you must get yours from a different manufacturing plant than where we get ours from around here.???? I don't think I ever had or saw one that didn't rattle. That being said I haven't handled any of the new ones made the last 4-5 years. It's been an issue for years. Don't take my word for it just Google "835 forearm rattle"
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php?topic=45425.0
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Bigeclipse on January 20, 2018, 09:12:24 PM
Quote from: FloppinTom on January 19, 2018, 09:59:28 PM
Bowguy you must get yours from a different manufacturing plant than where we get ours from around here.???? I don't think I ever had or saw one that didn't rattle. That being said I haven't handled any of the new ones made the last 4-5 years. It's been an issue for years. Don't take my word for it just Google "835 forearm rattle"
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php?topic=45425.0
I just handeled one for the first time at walmart and there was no rattle at all while the Remington 870 did have a rattle. Maybe I should have picket up that 835. It was the turkey model for 395$
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: davisd9 on January 20, 2018, 09:18:00 PM
Never had turkey care a bit about forearm rattle.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Bowguy on January 23, 2018, 02:30:04 PM
Quote from: FloppinTom on January 19, 2018, 09:59:28 PM
Bowguy you must get yours from a different manufacturing plant than where we get ours from around here.???? I don't think I ever had or saw one that didn't rattle. That being said I haven't handled any of the new ones made the last 4-5 years. It's been an issue for years. Don't take my word for it just Google "835 forearm rattle"
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php?topic=45425.0
Tom, I told ya mine and my buddy's are older. There's zero forearm rattle. If it's a problem it's been more recent. Think I bought mine around 1990 or somewhere around there.
My brothers and buddies have em prob closer to 2000, they don't rattle either. There's certainly a timeframe available for problems but at anywhere I've seen them they never rattled. Not one.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on January 23, 2018, 09:35:32 PM
I've owned 7 835s since 1989 and sold more than 200.  The first models (every single gun made with ONE action bar-corncob foregrip or not) rattled like crazy.  The newer models (manufactured 1994 and later), with dual action bars and standard barrel ports had almost no rattle. 
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: wvmntnhick on January 23, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Mine rattles like an old Ford truck on a washboard road.


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Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Bigeclipse on January 24, 2018, 11:33:29 AM
Quote from: wvmntnhick on January 23, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Mine rattles like an old Ford truck on a washboard road.


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how old is yours?

Again, to date...I have only held one 835 (a couple weeks ago) and I shook it around in the store...no rattle. I could wiggle the forearm side to side with my front hand...but it did not rattle.
Title: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: WNCTracker on January 24, 2018, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: FloppinTom on January 19, 2018, 05:52:52 PM
There is no forearm rattle with the 935!
This was my first thought. I really disliked that rattle. I bought mine new in 2013


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Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on January 25, 2018, 11:54:35 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on January 24, 2018, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: FloppinTom on January 19, 2018, 05:52:52 PM
There is no forearm rattle with the 935!
This was my first thought. I really disliked that rattle. I bought mine new in 2013


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STILL sitting wondering when you guys are going to notice he said 935, NOT 835?...
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: WNCTracker on January 26, 2018, 06:20:53 AM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on January 25, 2018, 11:54:35 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on January 24, 2018, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: FloppinTom on January 19, 2018, 05:52:52 PM
There is no forearm rattle with the 935!
This was my first thought. I really disliked that rattle. I bought mine new in 2013


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STILL sitting wondering when you guys are going to notice he said 935, NOT 835?...
OP asked 835 vs 935. FloppinTom said no rattle with with 935 implying that he'd choose the 935 because the 835 rattles. Now you can Wonder no longer....


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Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: cjr1 on January 26, 2018, 01:03:16 PM
Quote from: Bigeclipse on January 14, 2018, 08:13:32 AM
I've been looking to get a new turkey gun. I've decided my budget fits either a mossberg 835 or 935. At the stores around me I have found a camo 835 with 24in barrel for 395$ and a 935 for 495$. Is literally the only difference between these is pump versus semi? Will they tend to pattern similarly? Which do you prefer for turkey hunting? I always like to try and save money but if there is a reason to spend the extra 100$ please let me know! Thanks!

I've got both guns. My 835 is a year one tank and started as my waterfowl gun for many, many years. Went straight Turkey gun in 2000. The 935 is my loaner waterfowl gun for when I take customers, etc out to hunt. It has a 28" barrel and the 835 has both a 28" and 22".

Both guns pattern great. Not a dimes difference in them. I've killed several birds with the 935. But, always go back to the 835 due to the pistol grip stock and shorter barrel. You would be happy with either gun, really depends on if you want a semi auto or pump. Recoil is a little less on the 935, but I never notice when I looking at a bird.

All that being said, I am looking at buying an 870 SPS for a change of pace. Even if I get a new gun, I'll have a hard time not hunting with the 835.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: dirt road ninja on January 26, 2018, 02:09:06 PM
I've got both and can't tell the difference in recoil between the two. Both kick and both suck to work up load and choke combos. Now they both shoot well, the 835 has a 24" tube and the 935 sports a 26", there is 0 difference in performance. They both kill and are tough to beat for the money.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: wvmntnhick on January 27, 2018, 08:07:24 PM
Quote from: Bigeclipse on January 24, 2018, 11:33:29 AM
Quote from: wvmntnhick on January 23, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Mine rattles like an old Ford truck on a washboard road.


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how old is yours?

Again, to date...I have only held one 835 (a couple weeks ago) and I shook it around in the store...no rattle. I could wiggle the forearm side to side with my front hand...but it did not rattle.
No clue the age honestly. It's an older NWTF model with their rattle can style camo. Has the round forearm, not the newer square model. It makes some noise but the turkeys don't seem to care much.


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Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Izzyjoe on January 28, 2018, 09:30:28 AM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on January 23, 2018, 09:35:32 PM
I've owned 7 835s since 1989 and sold more than 200.  The first models (every single gun made with ONE action bar-corncob foregrip or not) rattled like crazy.  The newer models (manufactured 1994 and later), with dual action bars and standard barrel ports had almost no rattle.
A friend of a friend bought one in the late 80's, when we were in high school, and remember his having twin action bars. I've never seen one with single bars. I know the early 500's had single action bar, but they changed that back in the 70's.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Cane Cutter on January 29, 2018, 06:53:01 AM
Later models of the 835 have really improved through the years


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Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: grousec on February 11, 2018, 11:31:44 AM
I would buy the 935 for the difference.  Had both now only have the 935.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: steelheadr on February 11, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
Quote from: knightrider on January 15, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
Whichever you decide get the pistol grip, your face will appreciate it :OGturkeyhead

no to pistol grip.  Much more movrment to take off safety on top of receiver. i have both 835 and 935 both shoot great. One sometimes shoot slightly better depending on load yuo're shooting.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: wade on February 11, 2018, 02:49:05 PM
My turkey gun is a 935. Had an issue right after I bought it, Mossberg fixed it for free including shipping both ways. Mine came with a shim kit, not sure if they all do. Using the shims I raised the comb and that calmed the face slap. I shoot 3.5" Winchester Longbeard #5s using the extra full choke that came with the gun. Tried some other after market chokes none gave better patterns. If it was me I'd pay extra for the semi-auto. But I own and shoot other semi-auto shotguns. Can't go wrong either way the way I see it.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: knightrider on February 11, 2018, 10:54:04 PM
Quote from: steelheadr on February 11, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
Quote from: knightrider on January 15, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
Whichever you decide get the pistol grip, your face will appreciate it :OGturkeyhead

no to pistol grip.  Much more movrment to take off safety on top of receiver. i have both 835 and 935 both shoot great. One sometimes shoot slightly better depending on load yuo're shooting.
you either have very freakishly small hands or never used one  :funnyturkey:, all you do is slide your thumb forward no extra movement at all
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: howl on February 12, 2018, 10:30:30 AM
Man, it's getting deep in here....

They're both overpriced throwaway guns. They will sure throw a pattern, though. I liked the 935 I had a lot better than the 835.

835 will outlast the 935. When the 835 starts rattling you can make it quiet again by putting furniture slider material inside the forearm to snug it against the barrel.

If used only for turkey hunting, the difference in price will be forgotten by the time you need to replace it.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on February 12, 2018, 02:36:17 PM
Another mossberg hater, gun snob?  Overpriced throwaway guns?  I have 835 from the first year they came out that are still running stong and have had literally thousands of rounds through them both. The 935 is the same quality of gun.  Don't bash a gun just because you don't like the brand.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: howl on February 12, 2018, 03:11:48 PM
That's funny. Thousands isn't very many rounds. Ten thousands is more like it.

I like Mossbergs just fine and have killed plenty of game with them. They're not all that great, though. Recognizing what they are is not bashing. At $500 for an auto you're right on Beretta A300 money. They A300 is a much better, longer lasting gun. So, yeah, the 935 is overpriced for the quality. And it'll not last as long as other guns you can get for the same money.

The pumps are a better value, but longterm use will require replacing parts. That is not necessarily a bad thing. You should recognize what it is and value it accordingly.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on February 12, 2018, 03:52:47 PM
Quote from: howl on February 12, 2018, 03:11:48 PM
That's funny. Thousands isn't very many rounds. Ten thousands is more like it.

I like Mossbergs just fine and have killed plenty of game with them. They're not all that great, though. Recognizing what they are is not bashing. At $500 for an auto you're right on Beretta A300 money. They A300 is a much better, longer lasting gun. So, yeah, the 935 is overpriced for the quality. And it'll not last as long as other guns you can get for the same money.

The pumps are a better value, but longterm use will require replacing parts. That is not necessarily a bad thing. You should recognize what it is and value it accordingly.

Thousands of rounds means many, many thousands of rounds.  Not light trap or game loads either.  I mean heavy,  high velocity waterfowl and turkey loads-by the multiple casefull every year.  Not something your average hunter does as do the guys I hunt with and I can't remember a failure in a mossberg...ever.  Not in the guns we use or the many hundreds I've sold.  Not something I can say for remmy or winny semi gas op guns.   The vast majority of hunters don't put anywhere close to the numbers of rounds I'm talking about, let alone your "tens of thousands"  comment like would be reserved for serious trap and skeet shooters.   Please also enlighten me on which parts, other than ONE on the 935, and ANY on the 835 that would need replacing?
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: steelheadr on February 19, 2018, 02:26:11 PM
Quote from: knightrider on February 11, 2018, 10:54:04 PM
Quote from: steelheadr on February 11, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
Quote from: knightrider on January 15, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
Whichever you decide get the pistol grip, your face will appreciate it :OGturkeyhead

no to pistol grip.  Much more movrment to take off safety on top of receiver. i have both 835 and 935 both shoot great. One sometimes shoot slightly better depending on load yuo're shooting.
you either have very freakishly small hands or never used one  :funnyturkey:, all you do is slide your thumb forward no extra movement at all

Not movement to safety on standard stock because your thumb is on top of stock. on a pistol grip ypur thumb is below stock and you have to almost take your fingers off the pistol grip potion to get to safety. that said i wouldn't get it. my friend has an 835 with a pistol grip and likes it. each their own

Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: KYStalker on February 26, 2018, 12:49:33 AM
I had an 835 24" that I really liked, but I bought a used 935 Grand Slam 22" for a great price that I love.  Sometimes I resort to crawling through the dirt to close the distance to a gobbler, and having fewer nooks and cranies to clean dirt out of is nice on the 935.  Also, both would shoot high.  Used a set of magnum gobble dot sights to fix that.
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Buckeye_Strutter_935 on March 06, 2018, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: Bigeclipse on January 14, 2018, 08:13:32 AM
I've been looking to get a new turkey gun. I've decided my budget fits either a mossberg 835 or 935. At the stores around me I have found a camo 835 with 24in barrel for 395$ and a 935 for 495$. Is literally the only difference between these is pump versus semi? Will they tend to pattern similarly? Which do you prefer for turkey hunting? I always like to try and save money but if there is a reason to spend the extra 100$ please let me know! Thanks!
i have the 935 and my brother has an 835 i personally will take a semi auto over pump anyday they both pattern amazing with ssx choke and 3.5 inch Winchester Longbeard XR 5 shot....i now use my stoeger m3500 but i will always have my mossy great gun
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: longislandloco on March 06, 2018, 05:01:48 PM
.........and the winner is?
Title: Re: Mossberg 835 Vs 935
Post by: Spurs Up on March 06, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: steelheadr on February 19, 2018, 02:26:11 PM
Quote from: knightrider on February 11, 2018, 10:54:04 PM
Quote from: steelheadr on February 11, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
Quote from: knightrider on January 15, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
Whichever you decide get the pistol grip, your face will appreciate it :OGturkeyhead

no to pistol grip.  Much more movrment to take off safety on top of receiver. i have both 835 and 935 both shoot great. One sometimes shoot slightly better depending on load yuo're shooting.
you either have very freakishly small hands or never used one  :funnyturkey:, all you do is slide your thumb forward no extra movement at all

Not movement to safety on standard stock because your thumb is on top of stock. on a pistol grip ypur thumb is below stock and you have to almost take your fingers off the pistol grip potion to get to safety. that said i wouldn't get it. my friend has an 835 with a pistol grip and likes it. each their own

:you_rock:  Yep...I'll take a conventional trigger guard safety over a tang safety every time when coupled with a pistol grip stock.