I swear if I wasn't conscientious about throwing a problem off on someone else, I would trade this gun away and never look back. Anyway.... shells are hanging up when I try to feed them in from the magazine tube. They hang up like this and have to be forced in to go into the chamber. Any thoughts?
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What shells and length? Have you cleaned it real good?
By any chance did you take the gun apart then reassemble it ??
Try all above first. At least parts are cheap and readily available if you need to take it to a gunsmith. Maybe just different ammo will help I never had any trouble with mine as long as I kept them magazine tube cleaned and oiled .
I've cleaned it. Had it apart and put it back together several times following a YouTube video. It's does it with all lengths of shells but is worse with 3.5".
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I've been messing with it again. Something has to be not put together right. It is locking back when trying to feed shells through. My 11-87 20 doesn't do that, it just feeds the shells through as it should. I've took them both apart and compared but can't get it working right. The 20 works great but this 12 just wont even though I could swear I'm assembling them both the same.
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I've had trouble with mine too in the past, mainly low brass. There's a gas seal (sleeve) that has to be place on a certain length shell... 2 3/4 I think and needs to be removed on the other 3 1/2 maybe. Also there's a large o-ring that may be leaking gas. Buy some wolf magazine springs... I keep one just for low brass. Also they like to run dry, real dry.
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I don't believe his issue is with the gas seal or the ring. He's forcing shells into the rig which has nothing to do with the gas system at all. As for what the problem could be, who knows. I'm betting it's something simple tho. Good luck with it.
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Feed latch may be bent and/or not in position. Gunsmith who is versed in Remington semi-auto shotguns is your best bet.
TRY ASKING CLARK , HE IS ON THIS THIS FORUM
HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TROUBLE SHOOT IT FOR U ...
Has it had this problem from day one or did it just start doing this?
Quote from: Chuck1443 on December 24, 2017, 07:55:58 PM
I've had trouble with mine too in the past, mainly low brass. There's a gas seal (sleeve) that has to be place on a certain length shell... 2 3/4 I think and needs to be removed on the other 3 1/2 maybe. Also there's a large o-ring that may be leaking gas. Buy some wolf magazine springs... I keep one just for low brass. Also they like to run dry, real dry.
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Something else I forgot to mention that happened with mine. I over tightened the magazine cap, which hindered the shell from clambering.
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Quote from: Gamblinman on December 25, 2017, 12:12:00 AM
Feed latch may be bent and/or not in position. Gunsmith who is versed in Remington semi-auto shotguns is your best bet.
I vote for this one. That was happening to my 11-87 20 gauge. A piece was slightly bent. The gunsmith corrected the problem and all is well.
My issue is not having a gunsmith around. Guess I'm just going to have to locate one somewhere
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You didn't mention if you have a scope on the gun or not, but I have seen some B-Square type mounts on guns put on and make the gun action not work...
MK M GOBL
Quote from: MK M GOBL on December 27, 2017, 07:39:34 PM
You didn't mention if you have a scope on the gun or not, but I have seen some B-Square type mounts on guns put on and make the gun action not work...
MK M GOBL
Interesting. When I bought this gun, it had a B square on it. I took that off. It worked fine for quite a few shots after that but of course now there's the issue.
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I really believe I have this figured out but not sure how to fix it. I believe the previous owner way overtightened the B square that was on it and it compressed the receiver some. I believe that's why it's hanging. When I put just the b square screws in it and leave them loose, it functions much better.
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Odd that it functions with the loose B-square screws and not with factory pins. Maybe the factory pins are tweaked and causing the trigger assembly to bind??
Quote from: captpete on December 28, 2017, 07:29:49 PM
Odd that it functions with the loose B-square screws and not with factory pins. Maybe the factory pins are tweaked and causing the trigger assembly to bind??
Just to clarify, it doesn't function perfectly, just functions a lot better with the loose screws in it. I've sent it off to a gunsmith now to see if he can figure it out.
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Keep us updated. I'm curious to see if you can get this resolved.
Quote from: Chuck1443 on December 25, 2017, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Chuck1443 on December 24, 2017, 07:55:58 PM
I've had trouble with mine too in the past, mainly low brass. There's a gas seal (sleeve) that has to be place on a certain length shell... 2 3/4 I think and needs to be removed on the other 3 1/2 maybe. Also there's a large o-ring that may be leaking gas. Buy some wolf magazine springs... I keep one just for low brass. Also they like to run dry, real dry.
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Something else I forgot to mention that happened with mine. I over tightened the magazine cap, which hindered the shell from clambering.
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I had trouble with my 11-87 from the moment i got it; it was brand new.
After much aggravation and trouble shooting I found mine to have the same issue. If I loosen the magazine cap a couple clicks it will run like a top, tighten it all the way down and it will not feed at all.
At the moment the gunsmithnis wanting to purchase a new trigger group but isn't sure that'll fix it. I just don't know.
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My best guess is the trigger group or a bent receiver.
The magazine cap thing has got to be some clearance issue in the forearm binding on the slide rails. Maybe that the over-tightening is twisting the forearm around slightly. Loosening a tad might be keeping it centered to properly. My son's 20ga has had some rare phantom jams in the past and this is a problem I have not heard of before. Warrents a little investigation on his gun. Thanks
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Quote from: Chuck1443 on December 25, 2017, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Chuck1443 on December 24, 2017, 07:55:58 PM
I've had trouble with mine too in the past, mainly low brass. There's a gas seal (sleeve) that has to be place on a certain length shell... 2 3/4 I think and needs to be removed on the other 3 1/2 maybe. Also there's a large o-ring that may be leaking gas. Buy some wolf magazine springs... I keep one just for low brass. Also they like to run dry, real dry.
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Something else I forgot to mention that happened with mine. I over tightened the magazine cap, which hindered the shell from clambering.
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I had trouble with my 11-87 from the moment i got it; it was brand new.
After much aggravation and trouble shooting I found mine to have the same issue. If I loosen the magazine cap a couple clicks it will run like a top, tighten it all the way down and it will not feed at all.