I am thinking about buying a new gun for next year. Has anyone handled a Super Black Eagle 3? I have wanted a 2 for years and now this has made my choice tougher.
I'm not per se a Benelli guy. Only have a couple but just write them the differences. I know they've gotten more "plastic" parts in em from my understanding, least that's what I was told the dif was M1 n M2.
I'll stay old school n to me more rugged, I certainly could be wrong but I'd write Benelli
If it is just for turkey hunting and you absolutely want a Benelli then get a Nova or Super Nova. If you want an auto turkey gun then look at Winchester, Mossberg, Weatherby, etc. Good luck.
You might end up paying a heck of a lot for a name! I wanted a sbe2 for years and when I finally got one it was a huge disappointment.
Quote from: Farmboy27 on June 07, 2017, 05:40:13 PM
You might end up paying a heck of a lot for a name! I wanted a sbe2 for years and when I finally got one it was a huge disappointment.
Agreed, mine warms the gun cabinett. I use it for dove hunting, may try it for ducks, but overall found it of little use. I had no confidence in it since it failed to fire once. Currently use a BPS Browning that never fails to work right. Not 100% sure why I hold onto it: probably because its light but kicks like crazy when using 3.5 inch shells.
I would recommend that you try out the two guns at a range if possible. May even be able to rent them. Just my 2 cents.
Never handled a SBE III but in my opinion, SBE II is the gun all other semi's are measured against. To be honest, I'm surprised that the previous posters have such a negative attitude about them. Mine has operated almost flawlessly since I bought it when they first came out. The only times it didn't operate perfectly was when the recoil spring needed replacing and one other time when I reassembled it incorrectly (that certainly wasn't the gun's fault). Very little maintenance required...I wouldn't own any other semi auto that's made at this time aside from a Browning A-5 and I'd have to think long and hard about that since there are a few design flaws in that gun...
Mine stays in the safe..i take my little Remington 870 - 20 gauge...
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Quote from: Farmboy27 on June 07, 2017, 05:40:13 PM
You might end up paying a heck of a lot for a name! I wanted a sbe2 for years and when I finally got one it was a huge disappointment.
Agreed, mine warms the gun cabinett. I use it for dove hunting, may try it for ducks, but overall found it of little use. I had no confidence in it since it failed to fire once. Currently use a BPS Browning that never fails to work right. Not 100% sure why I hold onto it: probably because its light but kicks like crazy when using 3.5 inch shells.
I would recommend that you try out the two guns at a range if possible. May even be able to rent them. Just my 2 cents.
I'll give you $150 for it as a favor to open up some room in your safe.
No need to thank me.
Quote from: Greg Massey on June 07, 2017, 07:27:11 PM
Mine stays in the safe..i take my little Remington 870 - 20 gauge...
Same offer, from one Greg to another, might as well free up some room.
Quote from: sixbird on June 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Never handled a SBE III but in my opinion, SBE II is the gun all other semi's are measured against. To be honest, I'm surprised that the previous posters have such a negative attitude about them. Mine has operated almost flawlessly since I bought it when they first came out. The only times it didn't operate perfectly was when the recoil spring needed replacing and one other time when I reassembled it incorrectly (that certainly wasn't the gun's fault). Very little maintenance required...I wouldn't own any other semi auto that's made at this time aside from a Browning A-5 and I'd have to think long and hard about that since there are a few design flaws in that gun...
For wing shooting I agree with you, but they are not a turkey gun and it should not take as much to try and make a turkey gun out of one with their price tag.
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Quote from: davisd9 on June 07, 2017, 08:07:47 PM
Quote from: sixbird on June 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Never handled a SBE III but in my opinion, SBE II is the gun all other semi's are measured against. To be honest, I'm surprised that the previous posters have such a negative attitude about them. Mine has operated almost flawlessly since I bought it when they first came out. The only times it didn't operate perfectly was when the recoil spring needed replacing and one other time when I reassembled it incorrectly (that certainly wasn't the gun's fault). Very little maintenance required...I wouldn't own any other semi auto that's made at this time aside from a Browning A-5 and I'd have to think long and hard about that since there are a few design flaws in that gun...
For wing shooting I agree with you, but they are not a turkey gun and it should not take as much to try and make a turkey gun out of one with their price tag.
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What separates a turkey gun from a wingshooting gun?
Quote from: spaightlabs on June 07, 2017, 08:26:58 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on June 07, 2017, 08:07:47 PM
Quote from: sixbird on June 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Never handled a SBE III but in my opinion, SBE II is the gun all other semi's are measured against. To be honest, I'm surprised that the previous posters have such a negative attitude about them. Mine has operated almost flawlessly since I bought it when they first came out. The only times it didn't operate perfectly was when the recoil spring needed replacing and one other time when I reassembled it incorrectly (that certainly wasn't the gun's fault). Very little maintenance required...I wouldn't own any other semi auto that's made at this time aside from a Browning A-5 and I'd have to think long and hard about that since there are a few design flaws in that gun...
For wing shooting I agree with you, but they are not a turkey gun and it should not take as much to try and make a turkey gun out of one with their price tag.
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What separates a turkey gun from a wingshooting gun?
Lots!!
Well heck. I've been using my wingshooting guns all wrong I guess...there are a few dozen turkeys that must have been very disappointed to have been taken by a wingshooting gun.
I can turn my teal gun into a duck, into a goose gun, into a turkey gun by changing choke tubes and loads.
Quote from: spaightlabs on June 07, 2017, 07:54:37 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on June 07, 2017, 07:27:11 PM
Mine stays in the safe..i take my little Remington 870 - 20 gauge...
Same offer, from one Greg to another, might as well free up some room.
I don't trade or sale any of my guns. I buy them for investments... but thanks for the offer...
Quote from: davisd9 on June 07, 2017, 08:07:47 PM
Quote from: sixbird on June 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Never handled a SBE III but in my opinion, SBE II is the gun all other semi's are measured against. To be honest, I'm surprised that the previous posters have such a negative attitude about them. Mine has operated almost flawlessly since I bought it when they first came out. The only times it didn't operate perfectly was when the recoil spring needed replacing and one other time when I reassembled it incorrectly (that certainly wasn't the gun's fault). Very little maintenance required...I wouldn't own any other semi auto that's made at this time aside from a Browning A-5 and I'd have to think long and hard about that since there are a few design flaws in that gun...
For wing shooting I agree with you, but they are not a turkey gun and it should not take as much to try and make a turkey gun out of one with their price tag.
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Yep, great duck gun, sorry turkey gun.
Quote from: Greg Massey on June 07, 2017, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: spaightlabs on June 07, 2017, 07:54:37 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on June 07, 2017, 07:27:11 PM
Mine stays in the safe..i take my little Remington 870 - 20 gauge...
Same offer, from one Greg to another, might as well free up some room.
I don't trade or sale any of my guns. I buy them for investments... but thanks for the offer...
I understand not wanting to get rid of any of 'em, but if you are seriously thinking of a run of the mill gun like a Rem 870 20 ga as an investment you are not going to see much of a return. Collectibles or high grade guns, perhaps. Turkey guns, not so much.
I've had my H&K imported SBE since 1994, never a better semi auto made..
Quote from: spaightlabs on June 07, 2017, 09:27:14 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on June 07, 2017, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: spaightlabs on June 07, 2017, 07:54:37 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on June 07, 2017, 07:27:11 PM
Mine stays in the safe..i take my little Remington 870 - 20 gauge...
Same offer, from one Greg to another, might as well free up some room.
I don't trade or sale any of my guns. I buy them for investments... but thanks for the offer...
Any gun is collectible it's all in the eyes of the beholder..I disagree that turkey guns are not very collectible or not very high grade.. All my turkeys guns are builds and very collectible to myself.. just my opinion... regardless they are investments...even the Remington 870, that i own , some are old wingmasters...
I understand not wanting to get rid of any of 'em, but if you are seriously thinking of a run of the mill gun like a Rem 870 20 ga as an investment you are not going to see much of a return. Collectibles or high grade guns, perhaps. Turkey guns, not so much.
Quote from: spaightlabs on June 07, 2017, 08:53:09 PM
Well heck. I've been using my wingshooting guns all wrong I guess...there are a few dozen turkeys that must have been very disappointed to have been taken by a wingshooting gun.
I can turn my teal gun into a duck, into a goose gun, into a turkey gun by changing choke tubes and loads.
Didn't mean any offense. But there is a big difference between any "dedicated gun" and a do it all gun. A waterfowl gun can have a long barrel for a better swing and sight plane. A little more weight helps with the swing and recoil from lots of shooting. An upland gun is well suited with a mid length barrel for balence. A grouse/woodcock gun can be light and whippy for fast snap shooting. Any shotgun can be used for all purposes. I've done it for years. But none will be absolutely ideal for it all. It's like rifles. My 223 can kill deer. I've done it many times. But few would call it a deer gun. I've kill groundhogs with my 300 mag. Few would call it a groundhog gun. As far as my comment on the Benelli, I'm not saying they are not reliable guns. But they are notorious for not shooting to point of aim. Maybe not bad enough to worry about for wing shooting. But turkey hunting ain't wing shooting. And I've never seen a 1600 dollar benelli that patterned better straight out of the box than a 400 dollar mossberg. Not saying that they aren't good guns. But they sure ain't good enough to justify the price in my opinion.
Quote from: Farmboy27 on June 07, 2017, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: spaightlabs on June 07, 2017, 08:53:09 PM
Well heck. I've been using my wingshooting guns all wrong I guess...there are a few dozen turkeys that must have been very disappointed to have been taken by a wingshooting gun.
I can turn my teal gun into a duck, into a goose gun, into a turkey gun by changing choke tubes and loads.
Didn't mean any offense. But there is a big difference between any "dedicated gun" and a do it all gun. A waterfowl gun can have a long barrel for a better swing and sight plane. A little more weight helps with the swing and recoil from lots of shooting. An upland gun is well suited with a mid length barrel for balence. A grouse/woodcock gun can be light and whippy for fast snap shooting. Any shotgun can be used for all purposes. I've done it for years. But none will be absolutely ideal for it all. It's like rifles. My 223 can kill deer. I've done it many times. But few would call it a deer gun. I've kill groundhogs with my 300 mag. Few would call it a groundhog gun. As far as my comment on the Benelli, I'm not saying they are not reliable guns. But they are notorious for not shooting to point of aim. Maybe not bad enough to worry about for wing shooting. But turkey hunting ain't wing shooting. And I've never seen a 1600 dollar benelli that patterned better straight out of the box than a 400 dollar mossberg. Not saying that they aren't good guns. But they sure ain't good enough to justify the price in my opinion.
Good Post....
Shoot what makes you happy. Whether It is a Benelli or a Bolivian blunderbuss.
Quote from: davisd9 on June 07, 2017, 08:07:47 PM
Quote from: sixbird on June 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Never handled a SBE III but in my opinion, SBE II is the gun all other semi's are measured against. To be honest, I'm surprised that the previous posters have such a negative attitude about them. Mine has operated almost flawlessly since I bought it when they first came out. The only times it didn't operate perfectly was when the recoil spring needed replacing and one other time when I reassembled it incorrectly (that certainly wasn't the gun's fault). Very little maintenance required...I wouldn't own any other semi auto that's made at this time aside from a Browning A-5 and I'd have to think long and hard about that since there are a few design flaws in that gun...
For wing shooting I agree with you, but they are not a turkey gun and it should not take as much to try and make a turkey gun out of one with their price tag.
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x2 poa/poi pain in the rears imo. I have a Sbe1 and 2 Sbe2s. Great wingshooters,but I personally don't care for mine on turkeys at least without using a scope. Always grab my Encore for turkeys.I will say mine have been very dependable on waterfowl and pheasant.
Sold my SBE2 but I will say it was an amazing and very dependable gun. It through a great pattern on target with just the bead sight. All my Benelli's have been very dependable over the years. My dedicated turkey gun right now is a Winchester but I have an old Benelli M1 being worked on right now that will join the SX3.
Quote from: davisd9 on June 07, 2017, 08:07:47 PM
Quote from: sixbird on June 07, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
Never handled a SBE III but in my opinion, SBE II is the gun all other semi's are measured against. To be honest, I'm surprised that the previous posters have such a negative attitude about them. Mine has operated almost flawlessly since I bought it when they first came out. The only times it didn't operate perfectly was when the recoil spring needed replacing and one other time when I reassembled it incorrectly (that certainly wasn't the gun's fault). Very little maintenance required...I wouldn't own any other semi auto that's made at this time aside from a Browning A-5 and I'd have to think long and hard about that since there are a few design flaws in that gun...
For wing shooting I agree with you, but they are not a turkey gun and it should not take as much to try and make a turkey gun out of one with their price tag.
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Not trying to be smart but I bought mine as a dedicated turkey gun and I couldn't imagine liking one more for that purpose. They're light to carry. They handle well, and they produce a very good pattern with a little experimentation (as do others).They're pretty much bullet proof and the design is both pleasing to the eye and exceptionally functional...
To each his own of course but to me, there's not a better all around turkey gun...
I hear people complain about poa/poi but I never had that problem with mine. I did set it up properly with the shims supplied...
To me the 870's seem like clubs. Winchesters don't have a great rep. regarding function. Mossbergs have been prone to breakage. Brownings are heavy and awkward...So, seems like every gun has it's drawbacks. Have I insulted everyone yet? ;^)
As soon as I picked up the SBE II I knew I had to have one. Now, I know everybody has their "one love..." That's why everyone isn't after grandma'...And I understand that but bashing the Benelli's and saying they lack function is just inaccurate...
Quote from: Farmboy27 on June 07, 2017, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: spaightlabs on June 07, 2017, 08:53:09 PM
Well heck. I've been using my wingshooting guns all wrong I guess...there are a few dozen turkeys that must have been very disappointed to have been taken by a wingshooting gun.
I can turn my teal gun into a duck, into a goose gun, into a turkey gun by changing choke tubes and loads.
Didn't mean any offense. But there is a big difference between any "dedicated gun" and a do it all gun. A waterfowl gun can have a long barrel for a better swing and sight plane. A little more weight helps with the swing and recoil from lots of shooting. An upland gun is well suited with a mid length barrel for balence. A grouse/woodcock gun can be light and whippy for fast snap shooting. Any shotgun can be used for all purposes. I've done it for years. But none will be absolutely ideal for it all. It's like rifles. My 223 can kill deer. I've done it many times. But few would call it a deer gun. I've kill groundhogs with my 300 mag. Few would call it a groundhog gun. As far as my comment on the Benelli, I'm not saying they are not reliable guns. But they are notorious for not shooting to point of aim. Maybe not bad enough to worry about for wing shooting. But turkey hunting ain't wing shooting. And I've never seen a 1600 dollar benelli that patterned better straight out of the box than a 400 dollar mossberg. Not saying that they aren't good guns. But they sure ain't good enough to justify the price in my opinion.
Point well made and I agree with a lot of it.
My theory is that the shooter is more important than the brand of shotgun. There are plenty of guys with run of the mill 870's and 500's that can hang with men shooting much more expensive guns. Familiarity is a wonderful thing. If you use a single shotgun for many years you will be more effective than the fellow dragging out a new gun every day.
Buy what you want and train yourself to the gun. Once it hits where the sights are lined up then the rest is up to you.
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I appreciate all the responses. Quite honestly, I am a little surprised by negative ones but I'm glad to hear it before making a decision. I should have said from the beginning that I currently use a Supernova with a steady grip and it is a straight up killer. It patterns awesome. My dad has the same setup and we both have talked about getting an auto just for the occasion that you need that quick follow up shot on a bird. More of a want than a need. lol My gun gets the job done fine. My buddy picked up a Sx4 and he loves it but I worry a little on reliability. The price tag is a lot better though.
Quote from: WVhuntEER on June 08, 2017, 12:12:26 PM
I appreciate all the responses. Quite honestly, I am a little surprised by negative ones but I'm glad to hear it before making a decision. I should have said from the beginning that I currently use a Supernova with a steady grip and it is a straight up killer. It patterns awesome. My dad has the same setup and we both have talked about getting an auto just for the occasion that you need that quick follow up shot on a bird. More of a want than a need. lol My gun gets the job done fine. My buddy picked up a Sx4 and he loves it but I worry a little on reliability. The price tag is a lot better though.
I'm in the camp that you buy a gun for life...It's like a marriage but you can, if necessary, let it go without a lawyer. Similarly, if you choose wisely the lawyer or the sale won't be necessary...
How many single gun guys are out there? I usually kill with 3-4 different guns every year. Start off with my longest range killer at beginning of season with no foliage, and as things green up change to a shorter range setup. I have owned 2 SBE2 guns, one shot high and right, the current one shoots dead on. I would not pay $1700 for a SBE3 without the chance to shoot it one time with a turkey load and choke to check POI.
Quote from: deadbuck on June 08, 2017, 01:21:28 PM
How many single gun guys are out there? I usually kill with 3-4 different guns every year. Start off with my longest range killer at beginning of season with no foliage, and as things green up change to a shorter range setup. I have owned 2 SBE2 guns, one shot high and right, the current one shoots dead on. I would not pay $1700 for a SBE3 without the chance to shoot it one time with a turkey load and choke to check POI.
I use the same gun the whole year and on trips. Took a different gun a few years ago on my first Florida hunt for Osceolas, on WMA, and missed the dang bird I called up. Learned a lesson to stick with the gun you are familiar with. Any miss hurts, but a public land Osceola on your first try has a little bit more sting to it.
I am a one gun fellow. Still using the same gun I killed my first with 16 years ago.
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I hunted with an H&K Super Black Eagle for several years, then got a NWTF SBE ii at the Dixie Deer Classic in Raleigh about 10 years ago. The poa and poi are very close in the SBE ii, but once I added a Burris Speed Bead it became the most accurate, best patterning gun I've ever owned. It is a 100% dedicated turkey killer and the only thing besides turkeys I shoot with it are patterning targets for turkey season. I sold the H&K SBE back to the friend I bought it from that we agreed to when I bought it. My SBE ii is like an extension of my arm. Whatever turkey I shoot with it, drops or rolls over backwards. Winner - winner, turkey dinner.
My best friend owns a SBE i and two SBE iis. Now he wants an SBE iii just because he loves how reliable they are. None of his guns have anything but the original bead sights. He had the barrel ported on his SBE i and has a sure-grip stock. It is also a turkey killing machine.
Jim
After reading all this I'm surprised Remington didn't give me my 11/87 since I must be the only turkey hunting with one
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I love my SBE bought in 2001. I use it for all shotgun activities. Hits where its pointed and kills. I have friends that bought SBE 2"s. Some hit where they are pointed some do not. They are all light good toting shotguns. Personally I won"t hunt with one that needs a scope to hit. The speed beads and scopes fixed their problem though. I have a couple of 870s that kill but they are just heavy after carrying the SBE for the past 17 years.
I've had my SBE2 for ten years now. I've owned Remington, Winchester and Mossberg. I still have the 870 as my son uses it and his middle name is Remington! I cherish my SBE 2, until this year I had Williams Firesights on it and it took little effort to have the pattern lined up. I went with a scope this year just because I don't see as well. I was one for two, first miss I've had in a long time but it was likely I was due to me being twisted up shooting behind me at a close one.
I have no experience with the SBE 3 but mine is a steady grip and a flat out killer.
I have 7 different shot gun brands in my safe and doubles of several. With said if I had to pick one gun it would be the SBE ll. It's light and just swings right for me. Come home after hunting in the rain and it's fully disassembled in a minute. However, I've had one problem and I'm surprised it's not been brought up. It's not the gun it's the shooter. With the inertia system if you do not shoulder the gun firm it may not cycle the fired round. I've never had this happen at the trap range shooting light loads as the gun is shouldered well. Upland hunting when sometimes a shot needs to be made quickly I've had shells not eject all the way. I've never had that happen with the M1. My brother also hunted with an M1 for 15 years and never once a hiccup. However when he got his SBE II he's had a couple of shells not eject all the way. I think it has something to do with the length of travel the bolt moves. I went through almost 6 boxes or 150 rounds this year upland hunting and about 4 or 100 rounds shooting crows. I never had an issue. I've been using this gun for about 13 years or so and I've learned how to hold it. It the beginning it was a problem and I sent back to Benelli twice. Good luck in your search.
Guns are kinda like women. If we all liked the same one, it would be a heck of a mess.
When I first went to Canada, there were 5 of us hunting. I shot the NOVA and the other 4 shot the Black Eagles. We are hunting from layout blinds. My NOVA was given away to a friend that lost all his guns in a house fire and one of them was a NOVA. I never cared for the gun that much anyways (un usable for turkeys due to POA/POI). 3 of the other 4 guys have moved on from their BE due to the "Binelli click" that happened to them a lot when shooting straight up shots, which is not unusual from a layout at ducks and geese. Also, they had lots of issues on rainy/muddy days, but to be fair that would be most every autoloader. I shoot O/U for ducks/geese and never feel at a disadvantage with 2 shots. When I pull the trigger it goes boom and all my empties are sitting in the bottom of my layout or boat when I am done shooting.
Of course none of that helps the OP, so sorry for the sidetrack.
I bought a SBE 3 this year. I had previously decided on a FF3 sight so whether POA/POI was the same didn't bother me. I like the way my gun handles and love it for a turkey gun. Call me crazy, but my SB3 feels lighter and actually feels like it kicks less than my 870. And if you are worried about the "Benelli Click", that problem was supposedly fixed on the SB3. No matter how slowly you engage the bolt, it engages as it should. I am also very happy with the way it patterned.
Quote from: g8rvet on June 09, 2017, 01:58:28 PM
Guns are kinda like women. If we all liked the same one, it would be a heck of a mess.
My buddy says guns are better than women...
your gun won't care if you go bang with another gun. :z-guntootsmiley:
Quote from: sixbird on June 08, 2017, 08:20:39 AM
I hear people complain about poa/poi but I never had that problem with mine. I did set it up properly with the shims supplied...
To me the 870's seem like clubs. Winchesters don't have a great rep. regarding function. Mossbergs have been prone to breakage. Brownings are heavy and awkward...So, seems like every gun has it's drawbacks. Have I insulted everyone yet? ;^)
As soon as I picked up the SBE II I knew I had to have one. Now, I know everybody has their "one love..." That's why everyone isn't after grandma'...And I understand that but bashing the Benelli's and saying they lack function is just inaccurate...
Never even heard of a Mossberg w probs??
All I can say is I love my SBE2.
Have not but Benelli speaks for itself
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I've had my SBE2 for around 11 years now. I love it. It's been a great waterfowl and turkey gun for me. Pretty sure it kills turkeys just as dead as any other turkey gun would.
Be Nellie just never fit me at sll. I find them very uncomfortable. Browning autos fit me much better.same as Remington 1100 and 11 87
Not a fan of the sbe for a turkey gun due to many issues already mentioned in this thread: notorious poa/poi problems, the bolt can easily come out of battery, narrow bore can be an obstacle to high density patterns (not impossible to achieve but harder).
To me, it's an uphill battle with an SBE to convert it into a high performance turkey gun which is further validated by the sheer number of guys I know running them that had to get optics.
If I was getting one, though, I'd get the SBE2. Cosmetically, I love the sleek, European lines.
Supposedly, the new SBE III has the same "Benelli click" fix that's being used in the Ethos, so that's a MAJOR ADVANTAGE over the SBE II when used as a turkey gun. It's also lighter....actually, it's even lighter than a similar M2. I handled an SBE II, SBE III, and an M2 last week. The M2 "feels" just a hair better to me than the other guns, but all three are fantastic. However, both SBE models come with drilled and tapped receivers from the factory.
Love my 2...function is flawless...no poi/poa issue...patterns any turkey load I've tried sufficiently enough to kill birds to 40 even junk Rem nitro turkey with all the buffer leaking out...It handles like a 20ga and fits me well...primarily a waterfowl gun for me but has taken its share of gobblers!!!
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Anyone know if the M2s have the same poa/poi or similar issues some of the Sbes have. Also curious if the barrel diameter is the same or larger ..maybe a better route to go imo...
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on June 10, 2017, 02:44:33 PM
Anyone know if the M2s have the same poa/poi or similar issues some of the Sbes have. Also curious if the barrel diameter is the same or larger ..maybe a better route to go imo...
I'm guessing the bores are the same, because they appear to use the same Crio chokes.
They do have a lot of the same issues which are largely derived from magazine tube misalignment w the receiver. A gun smith and famous 3 gun Benelli shooter named Kurt Miller developed a gauge that several reputable 3 gun shops now use to resolve the issues w the M2.
There is a lot of literature available on this matter on brianenos.com if you want to learn more.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on June 10, 2017, 03:28:25 PM
They do have a lot of the same issues which are largely derived from magazine tube misalignment w the receiver. A gun smith and famous 3 gun Benelli shooter named Kurt Miller developed a gauge that several reputable 3 gun shops now use to resolve the issues w the M2.
There is a lot of literature available on this matter on brianenos.com if you want to learn more.
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Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on June 10, 2017, 02:44:33 PM
Anyone know if the M2s have the same poa/poi or similar issues some of the Sbes have. Also curious if the barrel diameter is the same or larger ..maybe a better route to go imo...
I'm guessing the bores are the same, because they appear to use the same Crio chokes.
Appreciate it...I use to research alot of the Sbe issues,but don't know very much on the M2s and my son wants one. I'll check that site out. Thanks..
Man I LOVE my SBE3. It shoulders so well. I looked at SBE2's for a long time and came into a position to finally buy one this year but with the 3 being out I figured why buy old styles when I could buy the most recent release. No regrets. Killed a few birds this year and enjoyed every shot. Recoil is tolerable at the range too. Here's my 40 yd 3" LB 6's pattern with .660 sumtoy choke.......... This is my "turkey gun" (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170610/482d1502cd619abf9bde73a50b2793d8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170610/4c2ddba455fa2d034137249285c13c82.jpg)
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Do all Benelli shotguns use the same barrel? If so, it should pattern similar to my Supernova? If it does and I can get the same pattern in an auto I would be really happy.