Just a thought but anybody ever used any walkie talkis with earpieces when hunting with someone?
Right there in line with reaping in my mind, and not legal in a lot of areas.
I go to the woods to hunt and to get away from electronic devices, not to kill.
Don't see why it wouldn't be legal. It's just a thought for if someone is calling and back behind the gunner 30 yards or so.
You can't see how using electronic communication in the field is an unfair advantage?
How about 1 guy on the highest spot around with a good set of binos and a phone or a radio? Just tell your buddy exactly where the bird is and the best way to get to it. If the bird starts moving, tell your buddy to sit down and set up quick.
Takes the 'hunt' out of hunting.
If it's legal in your state and you wanna kill one that bad, go for it. Check your local laws though - not legal in a lot of states.
It has nothing to do with wanting to kill one that bad. I have other people hunting with me a fair amount and sometimes I separate from them as the caller in our setup and using hand signals doesn't exactly keep you low key. Anyway, we can delete this topic if it's controversial
I'd say leave it - it's a good educational topic.
It isn't legal in a lot of states and most people probably have no idea.
UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. That term cracks me up. Where's the line, and who draws it? Is using a firearm an unfair advantage?
Just saying.
It's illegal in a lot of western states for big game. I hunt by myself so never even considered it.
I just think in certain situations it could be used. Beats the hell out of trying to whisper to someone say my wife if I take her and set her up and I get back behind her and call. She only goes hunting with me and knows the difference between a gobbler and jake and hen but what if I see the bird or he comes in quiet and I need to tell her don't move he's off your right shoulder etc. Just something that popped in my mind
Well, I reckon the law defines it.
Hey - I get it , everyone has a different idea of fair, ethical etc.
For some guys, shooting a bird out of a tree is legit and in some places it is legal. Others, would never do it, legal or not.
Your state regs are dispositive of what is legal. check 'em.
Quote from: RiverRoost on March 26, 2017, 05:23:33 PM
It has nothing to do with wanting to kill one that bad. I have other people hunting with me a fair amount and sometimes I separate from them as the caller in our setup and using hand signals doesn't exactly keep you low key. Anyway, we can delete this topic if it's controversial
Leave the post, nothing wrong in what you ask.. interesting post. I don't see why people want let a person ask a question. Nothing controversial ... If a person doesn't want to use radio's that's his choose..
Well, not really - in many, if not most states, it's the law's decision whether they can or can't use a radio.
It's the same thought as using a drone. Put drone 500 feet up, hover it, watch the birds, make a play on the birds.
Post up your state and if it is legal or not.
I'm in Colorado. It is legal here as long as you don't use the radio or phone to direct a hunter to commit an illegal activity.
I'm all about ethical and fair and respecting the game I hunt. The idea arose this afternoon when me and my brother got on a bird and communication after we set up caused what should have been a done deal to fail. Not mad the outcome just got me to thinking afterwards like so many turkeys do after they teach us a lesson
Quote from: RiverRoost on March 26, 2017, 05:43:09 PM
I just think in certain situations it could be used. Beats the hell out of trying to whisper to someone say my wife if I take her and set her up and I get back behind her and call. She only goes hunting with me and knows the difference between a gobbler and jake and hen but what if I see the bird or he comes in quiet and I need to tell her don't move he's off your right shoulder etc. Just something that popped in my mind
If you are hunting with a partner that needs "coaching" or is a novice -
hunt the same tree. Then you can whisper all you want
Sometimes we get hung up in our "technique" of moving the caller back further, or making it sound like the hen is leaving, etc, etc.
But what do you do when you are hunting solo? You call and shoot from the same spot. It can be done with 2 hunters just as easily.
I have not used one for turkey hunting, but have used one for other types of hunting...
We used to use them duck hunting, basically to kill time chatting, or find out how many birds were needed to fill out, etc... We used them more for entertainment than as a tactical advantage, but currently cell phones are more convenient... Although, hunting certain areas, if one of us was having a good shoot, we would communicate to our partners to come on over (again cell phones are more convenient currently).
We still use them quail hunting due to the lack of cell phone coverage... We often split up (i.e. different canyons), and will use them to communicate our positions, and if we do find birds we communicate that as well... Also, if one of us jumps a small covey, we will relate that, so the other person does not cross a canyon cause someone shot three times at a single bird that got up...
I see a walkie-talkie as more of a liability than an advantage in turkey hunting... You have a bird just about in range, and suddenly "SHHHK-crackle; you seen any action over there?" as the bird runs off.
I foresee the ear-pieces being nothing but a hassle. Just something else to get in the way or lose.
I've never used a walkie talkie for turkey hunting but my dad, son and I text regularly while being set up on the same bird. Not really any different than walkie talkie as far as I can tell and certainly not an unfair advantage.
Me & my hunting buddy have used them for years for deer & turkey hunting. Not for using as an advantage to kill a turkey but for like "where you at,"" when you coming out,"" have you heard any gobbling" & things like that.
I was just saying for like the "don't move, he's to our right" type stuff.
Quote from: RiverRoost on March 26, 2017, 09:01:21 PM
I was just saying for like the "don't move, he's to our right" type stuff.
I would check with a game warden in your area & discuss it with him. You may have heard years ago about Babe Winkelman being charged for hunting with walkie-talkies. I think he struck a plea bargain with the authorities on the ordeal.
We will text each other while hunting. If I can hear or see a bird and can't get to him I'll throw my buddies a bone.
(For example: "hey man bird on the ridge next to the river... slip over and bust him!!")
I don't see how it would be a problem if you split up over a large property and want to keep tabs on each other. But then again we all walk into the woods with cell phones that can call, text and send photos.
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My father in law and I used radios without ear phones for many years. It was more for my peace of mind knowing he was all right than anything else. We came to thoroughly enjoy being able to check with each other throughout our hunts. We set the volume real low and would key the radios up and pop the squelch to "call" each other without much noise. Worked very well.
I have never used a radio for turkey hunting ,but it used to be almost a requirement for deer hunting and everybody had a set of them. Two waterfowl hunting clubs i worked for it WAS a requirement that all the guides carry one with them. One in particular the owner would sit in the clubhouse and look out across the field and would give you an ear full if he thought the shot was called to far,to soon or if you shot at ducks if there were geese anywhere near the field.
Quote from: ilbucksndux on March 27, 2017, 07:20:57 AM
I have never used a radio for turkey hunting ,but it used to be almost a requirement for deer hunting and everybody had a set of them. Two waterfowl hunting clubs i worked for it WAS a requirement that all the guides carry one with them. One in particular the owner would sit in the clubhouse and look out across the field and would give you an ear full if he thought the shot was called to far,to soon or if you shot at ducks if there were geese anywhere near the field.
Now that's pretty tough! Seems like would take the fun out of it pretty quick always worried about making "the right" shot
Quote from: ilbucksndux on March 27, 2017, 07:20:57 AM
One in particular the owner would sit in the clubhouse and look out across the field and would give you an ear full if he thought the shot was called to far,to soon or if you shot at ducks if there were geese anywhere near the field.
Steve Hahn?
My first thought would be it's OK for general communication like "I'm moving a few hundred yards east". I probably wouldn't carry one because outside my cell phone, I'm not too big on carrying anything else with batteries. :D
You unfair advantage guys really crack me up. I have used 2 way radios and ear buds for years and have never seen an opportunity to kill a turkey or a deer by simply using a radio. I feel that using dogs, rifles, camouflage and concealment is an unfair advantage!
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We use our iPhones and bluetooth headsets to communicate if we need to. Some of y'all are going crazy on this subject. If you want to use technology to communicate with one another while hunting, then by all means do so. Quit being so negative to everyone who doesn't hunt the same way you do.
Unfair advantage... Good grief... Just go hunting the way you want to hunt.
I actually remember the old days when we went turkey hunting without the use of any electronics. Hard to believe we ever killed a bird! :o :fud:
Quote from: taylorjones20 on March 27, 2017, 03:22:17 PM
We use our iPhones and bluetooth headsets to communicate if we need to. Some of y'all are going crazy on this subject. If you want to use technology to communicate with one another while hunting, then by all means do so. Quit being so negative to everyone who doesn't hunt the same way you do.
Unfair advantage... Good grief... Just go hunting the way you want to hunt.
Read slowly this time...
It is ILLEGAL in many states.
You can't just go "hunting the way you want"...there are regulations.
Quote from: spaightlabs on March 27, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
Quote from: taylorjones20 on March 27, 2017, 03:22:17 PM
We use our iPhones and bluetooth headsets to communicate if we need to. Some of y'all are going crazy on this subject. If you want to use technology to communicate with one another while hunting, then by all means do so. Quit being so negative to everyone who doesn't hunt the same way you do.
Unfair advantage... Good grief... Just go hunting the way you want to hunt.
Read slowly this time...
It is ILLEGAL in many states.
You can't just go "hunting the way you want"...there are regulations.
Common sense must be applied here... pretty sure he didn't mean to go out and break the law!
I'm attached to a cell all week.....
When I hunt, the only communication I have is whispering to my son right next to me.
Quote from: spaightlabs on March 27, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
Quote from: taylorjones20 on March 27, 2017, 03:22:17 PM
We use our iPhones and bluetooth headsets to communicate if we need to. Some of y'all are going crazy on this subject. If you want to use technology to communicate with one another while hunting, then by all means do so. Quit being so negative to everyone who doesn't hunt the same way you do.
Unfair advantage... Good grief... Just go hunting the way you want to hunt.
Read slowly this time...
It is ILLEGAL in many states.
You can't just go "hunting the way you want"...there are regulations.
Wow... some people...
Disclaimer: I have never hunted a state with laws against using electronics to communicate.
I don't use a radio, but my buddy and I text each other during deer and turkey season. Some of it is just to chit chat and let each other know what we are seeing/hearing. Even if I don't see anything, I am glad to know that my buddy is having a little success.
Some of it is for safety. Get a text from my buddy - "Hey, I'm moving to the edge of the field" Ok then I know not to hunt the foodplot/field.
I have never thought being able to keep in touch with my buddy has given me an unfair advantage.
And truthfully, with the turkeys I hunt, I need every advantage I can get. :anim_25:
This is a good thread.
Ol Tom just came out with the "Copter". It's a vest that has a bag for a drone, and a special pocket for the controller. :TooFunny:
Turkey Hunting is a One Man Game.
Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on March 27, 2017, 09:41:57 PM
Turkey Hunting is a One Man Game.
I agree somewhat. I like to hunt by myself most of the time. But I also have a brother close to me and a father who like to hunt and it's good to go with each of them some and spend time together bc tomorrow or next turkey season isn't promised. I thought about the radio communication to talk a little crap when it's slow or communicate while a bird is slipping in
Nowadays, everybody has a cell phone, but sometimes out in the boonies, there is no service, or its spotty.Radios come in handy, if somebody gets lost, which does happen.
My two best friends in the world and I used radios with earbuds to chat during lulls or to let others know where we heard a gobble on my old lease. Nobody ever got an unfair advantage over turkeys that I could tell and we never killed a bird because of using a radio. We were able to head off trespassers a couple of times by confirming each other's position over the radio though. It was also extra handy to keep track of when the others were going to head to the cabin to start cooking breakfast.
Turkey hunting may be a one man's game, but it can be enjoyed as a group in separate locations on the same property. I'd rather know what & when my buddies are seeing activity, or who it was that just shot.
I sometimes text with friends of mine all over the country when we're all turkey hunting. Guys in Georgia, Texas, Alabama, Arkansas, Virginia, and Kentucky have no bearing on what is going on in North Carolina where I hunt. I have definitely been busted by turkeys when texting. Advantage turkeys, the way I see it.
Jim
Quote from: spaightlabs on March 26, 2017, 05:31:54 PM
I'd say leave it - it's a good educational topic.
It isn't legal in a lot of states and most people probably have no idea.
it isn't legal in Montana, but now days, everybody has a phone. If somebody gets lost, you can get killed out there, by a lion, so better have something to call on.
I can see this now, two game wardens checking a turkey hunter, ' you got a cell phone on you ?'. The turkey hunter replies yes' Give it up, illegal GPS while turkey hunting, illegal communication device while turkey hunting, illegal light while turkey hunting...c'mon guys where does it stop. It is a well known fact that about 15% or the turkey hunters in any given state fill all their tags during the season. The other 85% probably use decoys, reap, pop up blinds and the like, and are lucky to get one bird, if at all. When they realize its more important to have woodmanship and calling ability and scouting, then they give us real competition. :popcorn:
I grudgingly use radios in case my buddy and I get separated. It's easier than walking a mile to say, meet me at the truck.
I refuse to use them to warn anybody that game is coming. I think it's illegal to use them to communicate game movement, in N.J. and I'm all for that. I look at them as an unfair advantage as some have said.
They do come in handy for logistics such as finishing a deer drive and calling everybody off of their post. Or telling the watchers that the drive has begun. For turkey hunting, to let your buddy know you're returning to the truck or some matter of communication such as that.
I could do without them and generally turn them off unless I need to say something such as I mentioned...
I suppose they have legit uses...They're limited...
Quote from: greencop01 on March 29, 2017, 07:15:19 PM
I can see this now, two game wardens checking a turkey hunter, ' you got a cell phone on you ?'. The turkey hunter replies yes' Give it up, illegal GPS while turkey hunting, illegal communication device while turkey hunting, illegal light while turkey hunting...c'mon guys where does it stop. It is a well known fact that about 15% or the turkey hunters in any given state fill all their tags during the season. The other 85% probably use decoys, reap, pop up blinds and the like, and are lucky to get one bird, if at all. When they realize its more important to have woodmanship and calling ability and scouting, then they give us real competition. :popcorn:
This has what to do with radios???
Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on March 27, 2017, 09:41:57 PM
Turkey Hunting is a One Man Game.
. I agree, I've had my most success hunting by myself.Hunting with a n ethical friend, is ok too.
Me and my dad used to use them, but it was more of a safety thing and to locate each other. We were hunting palmetto swamps and thickets, so there was no way either of us could be a "spotter", and it was very very easy to get lost in that jungle.
A phone is a means of communication just like a radio essentially a phone and radio are communication devices. All I'm saying they both let you communicate with people your hunting with.
Quote from: spaightlabs on March 26, 2017, 04:59:35 PM
I go to the woods to hunt and to get away from electronic devices.
My thoughts exactly. Leave those things at home.