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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Gun Sights & Optics => Topic started by: Luke95 on April 06, 2011, 03:39:31 PM

Title: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Luke95 on April 06, 2011, 03:39:31 PM
 :TrainWreck1: but I am looking for a new optic and was looking at the bushel trophy red dot and banner scopes plz help me decide.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: goblr77 on April 06, 2011, 03:45:39 PM
I prefer the Simmons Pro Diamond in a fixed 4x. I had a Bushnell and didn't like it as well.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: sugarray on April 06, 2011, 03:52:33 PM
It really depends on which type of sight you want and need. 

Do you need magnification?
Do you want a tube style sight?

Sights like the Mueller Quick Shot and Burris FF II offer much larger FOV and easier target acquisition.  We can help you better with just a little more information.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Luke95 on April 06, 2011, 04:14:02 PM
 :turkey2: I want some thing to shootnslugs and turkey ammo with that is reliable and slightly cheaper and won't get killed and won't kil the bank where are the Simmons made? I thought that thenbushnells were Japanese?
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: chatterbox on April 06, 2011, 05:07:51 PM
Well, if it were me and I was shooting both slugs and turkey shot out of the same gun, I would go with a bushnell banner 1.5-4X32.
It's a well built scope, and can handle the pounding of both slugs and magnum turkey shells.
For accuracy out to 100 yards for the slugs, you will need a scope.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: va longbeard on April 06, 2011, 05:26:33 PM
I vote red dot.

I like the larger field of view for turkey hunting and the ability to shoot with both eyes open.

Never have wished for magnification to the 60 yard mark which is my personnel limit for shots at gobblers.

Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: cannonball on April 06, 2011, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: chatterbox on April 06, 2011, 05:07:51 PM
Well, if it were me and I was shooting both slugs and turkey shot out of the same gun, I would go with a bushnell banner 1.5-4X32.
It's a well built scope, and can handle the pounding of both slugs and magnum turkey shells.
For accuracy out to 100 yards for the slugs, you will need a scope.

:agreed:
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Luke95 on April 06, 2011, 08:49:14 PM
As a teenager my eye sight is very good and the shots in my neck of the woods are at max 75 yards I will lean to the other scope because I wont loose any batteries :TooFunny:  :lol: also it is more durable I think
:boon: Luke
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: knotheadedfool on April 06, 2011, 09:46:49 PM
having shot a few different scopes, a couple different tubes, and one reflex sight, my first choice would be scope ONLY if it was the bushnell with 6" of ER......ER is essential on a turkey gun unless you want scope eye.  Good eye relief, crisp and clear, circle x, no batteries, no forgetting to turn on or off, can handle the recoil.  The only bad thing is mounting it within the eye relief of the scope it interferes with the top tang safety of a mossberg.  Thats the only reason I'm shooting a tube dot on my mossberg, otherwise it would be the bushnell.  Having said that, I'm liking the bushnell tropy red dot with multiple reticle.  I wouldn't put another reflex sight on a turkey gun to save my life.  I don't like that if you have the sun in your face you get the reflection back on you and can't really see through the sight.  Even though thats not supposed to matter, I don't care for shooting that way.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Luke95 on April 06, 2011, 09:57:27 PM
 :TrainWreck1: how bad is it to operate the saftey buttom on a mossberg? the reason I ask is because it is my only gun capable of taking a scope my A5 would have the scope sitting way to high for me to shoot :(
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: knotheadedfool on April 06, 2011, 10:33:10 PM
to get the eye relief right with your head in a normal position the back eye tube sits over the top tang safety....you can still work it, but its about half as easy as normal if that.  To me, the top tang safety is a feature that I have to have so it makes a huge difference to me
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Luke95 on April 06, 2011, 10:38:24 PM
i know where you are coming from there my custom gun that I wanna build is a mossberg 835 custom camo and nice stocks with a red dot. but because i need double duty out of one scope I cant do that.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: hookedspur on April 07, 2011, 05:39:28 AM

Leupold 2x7 ,will give you plenty of eye relief and mag. for slugs and enough field of view on 2 power.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: TauntoHawk on April 07, 2011, 11:03:34 AM
I really wanted a scope but once I got on this sight the reflex reddot interested me, hit the range yesterday with my burris FF II and it performed phenomenal
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: goblr77 on April 07, 2011, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: Luke95 on April 06, 2011, 09:57:27 PM
:TrainWreck1: how bad is it to operate the saftey buttom on a mossberg? the reason I ask is because it is my only gun capable of taking a scope my A5 would have the scope sitting way to high for me to shoot :(

Not bad.

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Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Luke95 on April 07, 2011, 03:07:34 PM
Ok that is not that bad
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Reloader on April 07, 2011, 05:56:59 PM
I much prefer a scope, but usually go reflex due to the weight of a scope.  I have a Nikon 1.5-4.5x20 w/ Turkey Pro reticle that I love, but between mount, rings, and the scope itself it is a much heavier option.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Odessa on April 08, 2011, 05:01:00 PM
The Bushnell Trophy on my tang safety Browning BPS affords 9" of eye relief and doesn't interfere with the tang safety.  Good combo for me so far (Red dot is newly added last month).


(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/BPS_with_Bushnell_Trophy_3-18-11.JPG)
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Luke95 on April 11, 2011, 09:00:14 PM
nice gun and how is the scope with changing recticles. :you_rock:
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Smart longbeard on April 12, 2011, 01:07:15 PM
Quote from: goblr77 on April 07, 2011, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: Luke95 on April 06, 2011, 09:57:27 PM
:TrainWreck1: how bad is it to operate the saftey buttom on a mossberg? the reason I ask is because it is my only gun capable of taking a scope my A5 would have the scope sitting way to high for me to shoot :(

Not bad.

Very nice!! congrats!!
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Odessa on April 17, 2011, 06:26:18 AM
Quote from: Luke95 on April 11, 2011, 09:00:14 PM
nice gun and how is the scope with changing recticles. :you_rock:

Luke, I bought the Trophy version with the red-dot only, not the version with the four recticles/two colors.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Scout24 on April 17, 2011, 11:41:08 AM
Had both and for pure turkey gun I prefer a 5moa red dot, hands down. If I was using it as a deer slug gun as well, give me the scope.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: chatterbox on April 17, 2011, 11:48:29 AM
Quote from: Scout24 on April 17, 2011, 11:41:08 AM
Had both and for pure turkey gun I prefer a 5moa red dot, hands down. If I was using it as a deer slug gun as well, give me the scope.
I agree with this statement. The only difference is I prefer a 3 MOA dot.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: WyoHunter on April 17, 2011, 03:00:40 PM
I've got two Bushnell Turkey scopes in 1 3/4x - 4x. One's a Bushnell Trophy and the other is a Bushnell Trophy XLT both with the Circle-X reticle. They have worked well for me and you can pick them up for less than $100.00 each.
Title: Re: Red dot vs. Scope
Post by: Luke95 on May 09, 2011, 06:54:57 PM
buying a nikon turkey pro