I think it would be a good idea for us to have a thread of patterns from Remington 870s. Instead of someone asking what choke should I buy and then there being 4 pages of people arguing about whats best lets just post some patterns and let them look through and decide.
I know how you Handloaders are but lets just try to keep this to patterns using shells you can buy over the counter.
List your guns barrel length, choke, shell, polished barrel or not, shooting conditions, and yardage. This should give everyone an idea of what choke overall is best.
Barrel Length: 23"
Choke: .665 Indian Creek
Shell: 3.5" 2.25oz #6 Hevi 13
Barrel Not Polished
About 30 Degrees
40 Yards
(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff333/ktgjsm1/100_0077.jpg)
Barrel Length: 23"
Choke: .665 Indian Creek
Shell: 3.5" 2.25oz #7 Hevi 13
Barrel Not Polished
About 30 Degrees
40 Yards
(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff333/ktgjsm1/100_0076.jpg)
Barrel Length: 26"
Choke: .660 Jellyhead
Shell: 3.5" 2.25oz #6 Hevi 13
Barrel Not Polished
About 50 Degrees
40 Yards
223 pellets in 10 inch circle
(http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/bowhunter2k9/0306001646.jpg)
HeviShot Mag Blends
I got 160 pellets in a 10 inch circle... not impressed... but no picture
I really like this idea. It would be cool if we had a separate sub forum under the turkey guns section where we could start a topic, and anybody who used any specific gun/choke/load combination could post the results they got with certain loads. In my case for my 12 gauge I would put Mossberg 535 Indian Creek .660 Hevi 13 3.5" #7. Anybody else who used that exact same combination would reply under the same thread so all the results for that gun/choke/load would be in the same thread. If somebody shot a 535 with an Indian Creek .660 but used 3" #6, that would be a new thread. It would be very good for the search function as well since each topic would have the exact specs in the title.
I like that Idea!!! :agreed: :agreed:
all you have to do is list you topic as blank blank only. great idea lets make it happen
sounds good to me
this was a great idea; This is a common thread thats posted over and over again.
We also need the same for the 835 shooters.
Although it sounds like a great idea, it will never happen. Here's the reason why. People love to ask questions and talk. New members are always going to take the path of least resistance and just ask rather than search. And if you had a few threads dedicated purely to a certain gun or choke and everybody would tell the new guy.... hey do a search or go look at this thread, then this site would become very boring very quickly and then nobody would come around to visit. Its only human nature for people to want to share, talk and ask questions. Good idea, but it will never work or at least work for very long.
You make a very good point bird
I still think it would be great to have though
Quote from: bird on February 10, 2011, 06:32:56 PM
Although it sounds like a great idea, it will never happen. Here's the reason why. People love to ask questions and talk. New members are always going to take the path of least resistance and just ask rather than search. And if you had a few threads dedicated purely to a certain gun or choke and everybody would tell the new guy.... hey do a search or go look at this thread, then this site would become very boring very quickly and then nobody would come around to visit. Its only human nature for people to want to share, talk and ask questions. Good idea, but it will never work or at least work for very long.
Amen!
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A Thread with an excel type database devoted to different threadings such as:
Rem Choke
Gun Brand
BBL length
Choke Brand
Diameter
Shell
Distance
Temp
10"
20"
Have a separate one for win choke, Inv +, 835 etc etc
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p65/run-n-gun/Patterns/photo-1.jpg)
Gobble -Only able to see part of your pics.
Quote from: bird on February 10, 2011, 06:32:56 PM
Although it sounds like a great idea, it will never happen. Here's the reason why. People love to ask questions and talk. New members are always going to take the path of least resistance and just ask rather than search. And if you had a few threads dedicated purely to a certain gun or choke and everybody would tell the new guy.... hey do a search or go look at this thread, then this site would become very boring very quickly and then nobody would come around to visit. Its only human nature for people to want to share, talk and ask questions. Good idea, but it will never work or at least work for very long.
You have such a wonderful way of killing some suggestions and ideas all by yourself.
Having someone search a subject could keep the chatter down. This thought and wonderful idea will require those who like to research and assimilate information into useful data that is easily referenced. Those who do not wish to participate in this are not forced to. The day that data and spread sheets eliminates the talk on this site I'll start sending in photos of everything from the target I shot to the birds I get.
Winchester XR HD #6
23" barrel
Kicks GT .665
(http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab189/aaraymiller/feb19pattern002.jpg)
The first one is with the .669 Indian Creek BDS choke.
The 2nd one is with the MAD Super Max .675 choke.
Both are tape measured at 40yds from choke to target.
Hevi-13 3" 2oz #7's. Those are what I call perfect patterns for a factory turkey load.
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Someone said good things about the Rem Ventilator choke. I have one and for the money it probably is one of the best if not the best choke for Hevi-13 loads in the Rem barrels.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF0142.jpg
Forget about the lead shot only mumbo. It will shoot Hevi-13 loads just fine.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=956890&filter=ventilator&catid=0
But I will tell you that the .655 Ventilator choke won't shoot as consistent as the Indian Creek choke or the Super Max I have. I think it's just a hair too tight. You can see what I mean by looking at this pattern. The 10" is a great pattern but the 20" I think could be better. But it looks like is shot just a tad high from my 10" circle cutout. But like I said for the money it's a hard choke to beat.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF0087_Large_.jpg)
Just FYI for people looking to buy a ventilator, they are no longer in production. They can still be found new in box though. They are wicked with lead shot too.
ILIKEHEVI-13, I am blind, what are the numbers on those patterns? They look awesome!
Great idea.
Ole ya great patterns guys.
Rem 870 SM, 26 inch barrel, Rhino .660 choke, Nitro 4x5x7 3 1/2 shell. 40 yards laser ranged. Not the amazing patterns some get from this combo but I doubt any Alabama turkeys will survive it. LOL!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2n53s0.jpg)
Quote from: RAJ on February 10, 2011, 09:48:56 PM
Gobble -Only able to see part of your pics.
R u using a phone? When I use my iphone I can only see half of some of the patterns but with a computer they are fine?
Quote from: Tom Foolery on February 11, 2011, 09:40:28 AM
ILIKEHEVI-13, I am blind, what are the numbers on those patterns? They look awesome!
Well on the first one I counted 280 at first. But then I thought after looking at the shot more that I dug out of my bird last spring that some of the shot were snowman pellets so I recounted and came up with a respectful 263 in the 10". There is 477 total shot in the 20". On the second one there is 297 in the 10" after I recounted it and it may even be more. I originally came up with 319 but since I recounted I should be very close to the right amount. And there is 501 total shot inside the 20". The Ventilator put like 271 shot I believe in the 10" and I didn't count the 20".
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k236/camoman4025/Nitro328Hits.jpg)
I really think that is one dead turkey. :happy0064:
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 10, 2011, 10:58:59 PM
The first one is with the .669 Indian Creek BDS choke.
The 2nd one is with the MAD Super Max .675 choke.
Both are tape measured at 40yds from choke to target.
Hevi-13 3" 2oz #7's. Those are what I call perfect patterns for a factory turkey load.
Fantastic patterns. very even. what more could you want :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
(http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y372/Gophert/2010HS7.jpg)
Here is some from last summer. I stop testing after this one.
Quote from: VAHUNTER on February 12, 2011, 07:20:06 AM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 10, 2011, 10:58:59 PM
The first one is with the .669 Indian Creek BDS choke.
The 2nd one is with the MAD Super Max .675 choke.
Both are tape measured at 40yds from choke to target.
Hevi-13 3" 2oz #7's. Those are what I call perfect patterns for a factory turkey load.
Fantastic patterns. very even. what more could you want :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Thanks. What I like mostly about this gun is that it shoots deadcenter with factory bead. I did polish my barrel using the method on here basically. And I polished my chamber as well. That barrel I traded for and is not the one that came on my gun for it was a 21" barrel. I swapped it with this like new 28" barrel from a guy in GA who wanted my shorter barrel. It worked out the best for both us for I prefer a longer barrel having owned the shorter one.
All patterns are from a 870 SM, 26 inch "deep cleaned" barrel, .660 JH choke, lasered 40 yards.
First two patterns are hevi 13 3 1/2 in 2 1/4 oz 7s
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u124/matthewcf/patterns004.jpg)
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u124/matthewcf/patterns001.jpg)
Second two are hevi 13 magnum blend 3 1/2 in. 2 1/4 oz
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u124/matthewcf/patterns003.jpg)
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u124/matthewcf/patterns002.jpg)
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x343/bighooks1/IM000133.jpg) my 870 ic choke 23in barrel ....